I did actually notice the ZFS gui which is indeed something lacking in proxmox which doesn't default to ZFS in the installer. However once you do install it using ZFS it actually makes use of it pretty well and the user does not need to mess with the zfs cli tools much. Obviously it would be nice to have a GUI for all zfs operations too. Then again even TrueNAS refers you back to the cli for SOME operations.
On proxmox ZFS syncs do not require proxmox backup server, which actually has its own format which is very efficient in speed and disk space, but you do either need something like sanoid/syncoid or use of the shell.
I just installed Proxmox for the first time with a 5 disk ZFS array. Very basic stuff but I already had to go to the CLI a few times and it didn't really feel that well integrated. Even setting up the array didn't work (non-descript -1 error message, and ended up needed to use -f on the cli). I also couldn't find a zfs create equivalent (but that could have been me?)
It's fine because I'm comfortable in the CLI but I read your comment and wanted to share that it felt a bit rudimentary at best.
Yeah, that’s pretty much been my experience as well. Last time I seriously used Proxmox with ZFS (I think 8.4.x), it felt a bit… bolted on.
It works fine for the common VM workflows, but once you step outside that path, you end up dropping to the CLI more than you’d expect.
In Sylve, we tried to make ZFS a first-class part of the system rather than something sitting underneath it. You can create pools, scrub them with actual progress visibility, replace disks, and manage datasets (Filesystems, Volumes, Snapshots) directly from the UI.
Proxmox tends to abstract datasets away and handle them for you, which is great for standard VM usage, but gets limiting if you want to do something custom, like creating your own dataset for media or Samba shares.
That’s really where Sylve differs, it gives you both the "it just works" path and the flexibility without forcing you into the CLI.
On proxmox ZFS syncs do not require proxmox backup server, which actually has its own format which is very efficient in speed and disk space, but you do either need something like sanoid/syncoid or use of the shell.