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Never use your personal device for work, you wanted to say, probably.

The only maybe grey area is to only us it as authenticator. But yes even then the company needs to provide this, a cheap phone works.

or an even cheaper and less complex (!) hardware token.

USB keys? Isn't that what most companies do?

No, most companies use MS authenticator now for Office 365...

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/account-billing/download...


In the company I used to work they shipped you a chromium os computer and a yubikey

Most companies are definitely NOT using Yubikeys. Did you work for Google? Nice man :)

MFA in general had to be forced on companies, and then it is most often in software on a phone.

Here are some rough numbers.

  google_workspace:
    total_active_users: "3 billion (includes free/consumer Gmail)"
    paid_business_customers: "11 million companies (2024)"
    paid_customer_growth: "+1 million companies in under 1 year (2023-2024)"
    global_business_market_share: "~50%"
    fortune_500_presence: "minority share, weaker than Microsoft in enterprise"
    mfa_with_yubikeys:
      internal_google_employees: "100% use hardware keys (Yubikey/Titan) — since 2017"
      fido_u2f_origin: "Google co-created U2F standard with Yubico post-Operation Aurora"
      estimated_user_adoption_pct: "~1-3% of all Workspace users (inference, not published)"
      concentration: "Highest in finance, government, tech/security-conscious orgs"
      typical_majority_mfa_method: "TOTP apps (Google Authenticator) or SMS"
      enterprise_passkey_deployment_2025: "87% of US/UK enterprises deploying or have deployed passkeys (FIDO Alliance — includes all hardware key types, not Yubikey-specific)"

  microsoft_365:
    total_active_users: "~270 million (commercial)"
    paid_business_customers_us: "~1 million active US business customers"
    us_company_penetration: "~3% of all US companies"
    global_business_market_share: "~45%"
    fortune_500_presence: "~75% of Fortune 500"
    mfa_with_yubikeys:
      exact_stat_available: false
      note: "Same data gap as Workspace — no published breakdown"

  caveats:
    - "Google's 3B user figure conflates consumer and business — not comparable to Microsoft's 270M commercial figure"
    - "Market share figures vary by methodology (seats vs revenue vs orgs)"
    - "Yubikey adoption % is an industry inference; treat as directional only"
    - "Passkey != Yubikey — FIDO Alliance 87% figure covers all FIDO2/passkey methods"

I worked for Amazon they used the open source version of chrome os (chromium os). And mini PCs, I think this is the best setup, If I ever have to manage a company I will do this.

Ok good for you. Can you see now that most companies are not using Yubikeys?

I believe Android Work profile[0] would have limited the damage to the work profile rather than also impact the personal profile on a personal device.

Does anyone know if this is correct?

[0] https://www.android.com/enterprise/work-profile/


Exactly. BYOD cannot be wiped [0], neither on iOS, nor on Android. Only company-owned devices are affected.

edit: 0 - on iOS this means enrolled via User Enrollment


Thats assuming their IT department was competent and did the enrollment process correctly. Which, based on them just getting mega hacked, seems unlikely.



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