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> But $45k++ is just wild to me

It’s just surprising to me that this is surprising to anyone in 2026. New cars are no longer $20-30k in the US and haven’t been since 2021. Average transaction price is now $50k+, so if companies like Rivian that skip the dealership model charge $45k, it really isn’t that expensive. The only new cars under $30k are sedans and hatchbacks. And most of them start at almost $27-30k for base price not including all the bs dealership fees.

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> New cars are no longer $20-30k in the US and haven’t been since 2021.

there are plenty cars in this subrange, its just Americans prefer to spend more on extra features.


You ignored the second half of the statement:

> The only new cars under $30k are sedans and hatchbacks. And most of them start at almost $27-30k for base price not including all the bs dealership fees.


that statement is factually wrong too

New base Nissan Leaf is ~30k after delivery fee, and looks pretty darn great.

I’m not sure if you’re agreeing to what I said or if this is meant as a counterpoint. But that’s kind of proving my point, new cars are pretty expensive these days. If you’re getting a base Nissan Leaf for $30k, SUVs costing $45k don’t sound that unreasonable.

they from whatever reason made it much shorter and smaller than previous gen..



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