There will always be the opportunity for the foibles of humans to affect the procedures of the law. Trying to play "guess if the shadowy government agency is doing the right thing this week" is a losing game. They always take the proverbial mile, they are not ever going to be satisfied with the inch.
>Trying to play "guess if the shadowy government agency is doing the right thing this week" is a losing game.
Which is why the best strategy is to bring things out of the shadows and have the government operate in the open whether that is more literal by making their actions part of the public record or just figuratively by requiring a lot of disparate parts of the government to coordinate on something like this so it can only go wrong with truly widespread corruption.
Playing a cat and mouse game with the government via technology is also a losing game. They'll always have more money, people, and expertise on their side. When the heart of the problem is the humans involved, the solution is inherently politics.
There’s definitely been variability in how far government agencies have been pushing under this administration.
It’s going to get interesting if the next Democrat in the white house takes similar steps based on current precedent. That would hopefully result in long term reforms, but we might just be heading to civil war regardless.
Suggesting that republicans break, democrats overlook is biased and inaccurate. Obama attempted and got away with plenty of "creative" interpretations of the law. There's a clear partisan tendency to overlook oversteps that are in the favor of one's "team". Party politics is a disease.
It heavily depends on what kind of creative interpretations of the law you think are reasonable.
Democrats often go for “creative” interpretations that fit the existing legal framework just fine. Defining CO2 as pollution is upsetting for what it does but is within the spirit of what the law was intended and fits what it actually says just fine. Much of the civil rights movement operated on such principles because the laws where on the books it was the systems that didn’t keep up.
Republicans tend to find creative interpretations that depend on ill defined principles like executive power or corporate personhood which have about as much to do with the actual law as sovereign citizens and are open to unlimited abuse.
Failing to differentiate between each type of interpretation misses the inherent limitations of the first type.
It's called the ratchet effect, and it has been extremely obvious since at least Obama.
In recent years it's become far worse again.
Continuing a $20 trillion war on terror. Torturing people. Smearing whistleblowers. Killing millions with sanctions. Arming genocide and vetoing ceasefires. Keeping millions of files with details of the most horrific crimes imaginable sealed, while the perpetrators hang out on islands and buy politicians... Etc... All bipartisan, with very little dissent within one party and none at all in the other.
Those things are so, so far beyond "not breaking norms".
> This is set to continue, else they wouldn't be pushing for Newsom.
Most of the very farthest left politicians in the Democratic party tried to tell us that Biden was working tirelessly for a ceasefire. I don't know how they managed to say that with a straight face after watching him veto 4 UN ceasefires, but they did.
And all the media covered for it, acting like the massive protests were just a few miseducated antisemites, like Hillary said.
Yeah. This is set to continue. Voting blue down the line isn't going to get it done, I'm afraid.
You could be right, though I do think that we can't say for sure until they (i.e. non-corporatists) actually get a shot. What we can say is that the US is in this mess after nominating corporate dems for decades and asking for people to vote for the "least bad" option. Watching interviews with working class who voted Obama and now Trump shows that this is a core reason. Yet online there's still a huge number of people advocating for repeating the same thing expecting different results.
I think one reason why this is especially bad in the US is because of its cultural optimism, which inherently leads to extreme shorttermism. People are vouching to support Clinton/Biden/Harris/... because of blind optimism that somehow after 4 years thing will get better, to an extent of willingly completely ignoring the previous decades and somewhere deep down knowing that doing it is probably worse in the long term.
Why even consider violent civil war a possible outcome when we can redirect to peaceful separation instead, before more innocent life is lost? Human life is more important than federal supremacy. The adults in the room need to reject the immature tendency towards violence even if we're to decide that we can no longer live together as "one nation".
Splitting up the country to avoid a bloody civil war? Are you serious? The first thing that happens if California secedes is California's ports will be blockaded by US warships. And it's going downhill quickly from there. This administration would love nothing more than justification to lock up every citizen left-of-right-wing, or just exterminate them outright. They have been demonizing liberals for years as child molesters and satanists, casting them as less than human, violent, and depraved. You think a bloodless separation is possible? It's more likely that pigs will sprout wings and fly.
What prominent left-wing politician has ever talked about "re-education" camps? None, that's who.
I'm not talking about vile rhetoric coming from reddit commenters, I'm talking about people in the current administration - when Steven Miller said "We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be" - exactly what do you think he meant?
No, Hillary Clinton does not count. Hillary Clinton is not currently a prominent politician, hasn't run for any office in over a decade, and lost the election during the timeframe when she said that. So you're reaching pretty far back to come up with that.
