People said the same thing about so many other online services since the 90s. The issue is that you're imagining ChatGPT as it exists right now with your current use case but just with ads inserted into their product. That's not really how these things go... instead OpenAI will wait until their product becomes so ingrained in everyday usage that you can't just decide to stop using them. It is possible, although not certain, that their product becomes ubiquitous and using LLMs someway somehow just becomes a normal way of doing your job, or using your computer, or performing menial and ordinary tasks. Using an LLM will be like using email, or using Google maps, or some other common tool we don't think much of.

That's when services start to insert ads into their product.

> People said the same thing about so many other online services since the 90s.

And this leads to something I genuinely don't understand - because I don't see ads. I use adblocker, and don't bother with media with too many ads because there's other stuff to do. It's just too easy to switch off a show and start up a steam game or something. It's not the 90s anymore, people have so many options for things.

Idk, maybe I am wrong, but I really think there is something very broken in the ad world as a remenant from the era where google/facebook were brand new and the signal to noise ratio for advertisers was insanely high and interest rates were low. Like a bunch of this activity is either bots or kids, and the latter isn't that easy to monetize.

Except it's hard to imagine a world where chatgpt is heads and shoulders over the other llms in capability. Google has no problem keeping up and let's not forget that China has state-sponsored programs for AI development.

Except that I have switched to Gemini and not missed anything from OpenAI

And if/when they reach that point, the average consumer will see the ad as an irksome fly. That's it.

The ads can be subtile. Same way Claude today prefers to generate html with tailwindcss. Feels like an ad for tailwind as sometimes when I ask it to do something else it still just gives me tailwind

I agree, but the question is whether or not normal people will stop using them.

I think the empirical answer is no. Look at how many ads there are in everything and people still use it.

Normal people ignore ads. It gets easier with time. Television with ads means conversation about what we just watched.

How do you ignore ads when you ask for a recipe and it suggests using <insert brand-name here> ingredients, due to their superior flavors, textures, ability to mesh with the other ingredients, etc? Sure, you can decide to go with another brand, but over time, that stuff has the ability to stick in your brain. There have been many billions sunk into how to psychologically manipulate humans to get them to come buy your products, for instance McDs figured out decades ago through research that by giving away free toys in children's meals, the kids will whine and pester parents after seeing a commercial for a new toy from the latest superhero movie they just saw. Some parents will say no, but enough parents, after a long day/week of working will just give in.

Sure my example of asking for a recipe is contrived but imagine that for every query you make, that AI suggests using this framework for your web development, or basically any query you can think of will make subtle suggestions to use a specific product with compelling reasons why e.g. the competition has known bugs that will affect you personally!

The possibilities are endless.

Maybe that will end up being viable in the US, but I’m pretty sure it would remain illegal in the EU. There’s a reason why sponsored content has to be marked as such.

You mind starts filtering out those extras or you start using other sources.

I don’t think that’s true. For starters, I doubt all (or even most) of Google’s ad revenue is from fraud or from people clicking links they ignore.

I doubt people ignore sponsored listings on Amazon.

Except you won’t be able to ignore ads if Chat doesn’t explicitly state that 5 of 10 suggested products are ads.

> moment they start mixing ads into responses Ill stop using them

Do you currently pay for it?

I do pay for openAi Api but its a top up, my main usage is on free tier.

I tried to pay for Claude but they didn't accept my credit card for some reason.

I have local models working well, but they are a bit slow, my laptop is 5 years old, but eventually when I buy a new one Ill make the switch.

> Open models are good enough

Are they though? I have the best consumer hardware and can run most open models, and they are all unusable beyond basic text generation. I'm talking 90%+ hallucination rate.

Depends on the use-case. I like to generate front ends and there the hallucination is acceptable as html-css is pretty forgiving and I will manually modify it anyways