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The theory is that the price signal helps people make their own arbitrage between time and money and it would maximize society utility, but the reality is since people have a very different amount of money, it just do what you say: the rich pay without second thoughts and enjoy the higher quality of life when the less rich see a degradation of their own: they will either pay with money they don't have in excess and have to stop other consumption, or take public transports which is less convenient for them (since it's cheaper than car commute, they would be doing it if they didn't like it better).


Yeah, and I'm guessing the opinions of those people don't get taken into account by folks who are studying or manufacturing consent for these policies.


We have finite space for roads and an expanding population. Doing nothing means people spend as much time on congested roads as they would taking public transportation. Objectively the worst of both worlds and people having invested in a car and being used to it will continue living in it as it gets worse and worse.

Providing additional impetus to make a change seems virtuous.


If there's an overall plan to revamp transit and public spaces to accommodate all people then I'm in favor of it. That's how functioning cities do it. This is clearly just a money grab by a corrupt city.


If slack capacity exists in public transportation and roads are way over what's needed immediately is for people to switch over. Making it more expensive to drive instead of subsidizing it is a way to achieve this.


I'm convinced that having individual cars as default mean of transportation sucks, don't get me wrong.

But it's not because “doing nothing” is bad that any decision is good.

This kind of decisions that reduces the freedom of movement of the majority but spare the rich is exactly how people like Trump reach power.

You want to solve the urban planning problem that is car congestion, then the solution is a urban planning one, not a new tax.

Or at least if you want to leverage economic incentives, you have to give everyone working in Manhattan and not living there $200 a month so that their overall purchasing power isn't impacted (the marginal price of taking the car stays the same, and so does the incentive).


The situation as described on the ground seems to be fewer people driving so it seems like it is already working. It doesn't decrease freedom of movement by making people use public transit.

Trump got power because we are a garbage people with neither merit nor intelligence.


> It doesn't decrease freedom of movement by making people use public transit.

It is making people who weren't willingly using public transit use it, so surely it is affecting their freedom somehow.

> Trump got power because we are a garbage people with neither merit nor intelligence.

I don't think this kind of essentialism helps in any way.




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