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>The grocery store is 1.3 miles from here but it’s a 300’ climb and it’s 42f and raining right now.

I would get a jacket and umbrella and walk this without giving it a second thought.



That’s 1.5 hours round trip by foot and 15 minutes by car/e-bike.

And I have to carry my groceries so I’m limited on how much I can buy.

If there was a robobus I would absolutely take that option.


I routinely walk considerably further than that for groceries, in less time. On a route including a steep hill.

Short trips made any way but walking have considerable overhead. Bad urban planning makes it worse. How many times do you have to stop a car on that route?


> I routinely walk considerably further than that for groceries, in less time. On a route including a steep hill.

Not everyone has or wants to spend that kind of time. Especially when it’s not necessary and the weather is bad.

I’m hosting a party this evening so I need to run up there and get snacks and beer. The hour of time the e-bike saves lets me do that between work and guests arriving. I don’t have time to walk that distance and still eat dinner.

> Short trips made any way but walking have considerable overhead. Bad urban planning makes it worse. How many times do you have to stop a car on that route?

I don’t own a car. I ride my e-bike. There’s two lights and a stop sign on that route. It has a bike lane which is nice. Takes 10 minutes including time to put on my helmet and gloves and lock/unlock the bike.

If we both left my couch at the same time I’d be home on my bike before you even arrived at the store on foot.




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