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What about the gamble that the whole thing is a scam from the beginning? If they are going to fight tooth and nail to never payout anyway its all insanity.

Also how could insurance ever be a "for profit" business? That could never work. Profit means straight up planning scam right from the beginning, hoping that a big enough payout triggers business failure and you dont have to pay out anyone, yippee free and clear rug pull



I think thats why states usually regulate the industry


Spot the person who has no idea how the insurance industry actually operates or is regulated.


I am sure your life experience shapes that opinion but it is far from the truth. I don’t think these business ever hope for a total loss. It would make no sense.

I also don’t think a nonprofit or government can do an adequate job of offering insurance. Let’s ignore health insurance but rather define insurance in the base form as an entity paying out if an event happens.

In a for profit model you have multiple agents each evaluating risk and the costs to cover that risk. Ideally enough agents exist that they compete to keep costs low. Certainly sometimes this is not always true.


>Also how could insurance ever be a "for profit" business?

What? They plan to take in more in premiums than they pay out in claims by managing risks and underwriting.

In that sense it's like a bookmaker who plans to set a line on a game that results in bets not having an imbalance that outweighs their vigorish. In cases where they do they lay off bets on other bookmakers. It's why they tend to be concentrated on certain areas and the same is true for insurance.

Both of those are legitimate for profit businesses that use statistical modeling and risk management to turn profits and provide value to customers.


> take in more in premiums

Also, prudently investing the insurance float (excess premiums beyond that needed for claims)


> prudently investing the insurance float

More gambling! What I find interesting about this question is that insurance companies are the real gamblers. Attempting to frame their clientele as gamblers approaches absurdities such as a limited opportunity to spend, and most importantly, a strict cap on "reward" lower than the cost to "play" (entry fee for a new car is the policy rate plus a car of equal or greater value).

Whereas insurance companies are gambling on both ends: with their customers' potential losses and with their float on the investment market.




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