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> On that note, I don't see any issue whatsoever with 82 people running for presidency

I wouldn't have an issue if the election used ranked choice voting.

Otherwise, however, it could be a disaster, with the winning candidate only having a tiny percentage of the vote.



In Iceland, the president is chosen by simple majority of votes. The sitting president got about 39% of the vote. There were 9 candidates. Of course, this problem is usually brushed off saying that this is a largely powerless office, the prime minister and his cabinet hold the executive power.


A majority of votes would be 50.1%. More votes than any other candidate is called a plurality.


Ranked choice voting? The one with a litany of famous theorems about how no ranked-choice voting system is satisfactory? (Arrow, Gibbard-Satterthwaite, &c.)

Why would one ever want ranked-choice voting? It isn't even deranged in a way that advantages some type of candidate, it's just mathematically deranged.


Does it not being satisfactory mean it's worse than FPTP voting in the case where you're electing a single person?


People end up taking some many unplanned and unwanted responsibilitiesz why isn't governing one of those? Why isn't any fellow citizen a good leader than any other?


> Why isn't any fellow citizen a good leader than any other?

Because even you would agree that some people are better leaders than others.

People aren’t good at something (e.g. leading a country in the modern and complex time) juts because you wish it so.


Nit: Approval voting (yes/no for each candidate) is easier to implement and also understand. I couldn't rank 82 people, but could yes/no them...


Approval voting is just a different flavor of the same popular candidate tyranny. We need to be able to express support for non-duopoly candidates over the duopoly ones, and not continue to be held hostage fully supporting mainstream party #1 by the threat of mainstream party #2.

Unfortunately this devolves into geeking out over voting systems. Despite having the most popular support, Instant Runoff Voting is also a hot mess with its surprising nonintuitive outcomes. The way I see it, RCV/Condorcet is the way to go, regardless of the criticism that it allows for ties - it's criteria is straightforward and what most people would consider fair. Solve the ties with a tiebreaker IRV round (same input data type) or just a second election since they're going to be really rare with any significant population (how many times do we have ties with plurality?)


Hardly a nit when approval voting, unlike _any_ ranked-choice system, isn't mathematically shown to be inherently unsatisfactory.


Just pick your top 5 and it'll work out fine.


As long as you can answer a (long) series of "do you prefer A or B" questions, you can totally rank 82 people.


If I was voting in this election, I'm nearly certain I would not be able to answer that for most of the 82.


Well, if there's an A/B pair you can't separate, just pick either at random.


If my bottom 60 are all randomly shuffled then I haven't really ranked 82 people.




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