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This is exactly what CloudFlare and Google have been doing for a while. i meet so many tech illiterate people who "can't log in to the internet" because of some discouraging CAPTCHA or because Gmail decided that even though they knew their passwords, a phone number they haven't used in 2 years (and has probably been reallocated to someone else) is a better proof of identity.

It's a shame it's even legal to discriminate people's browsers based on shady stats and not actual abuse.



Because HN loves to complain about this, I get to repeat it as always. Enroll a real 2fa (totp, security key, passkey) on your account and you will not face any of these issues. There's a reason they do this for insecure accounts and an easy way to avoid it.

I've logged into years-dormant Gmail accounts, from small towns in Mexico on a $2usd Mexican SIM and google has not even batted an eye.


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It would be really awesome if Google would kindly tell them so they could have an opportunity to fix the issue and reactivate their account, instead of hard-locking them out with no recourse.

It's not like people are encouraged to keep their valuable data with these companies, only to lose the ai-fraud-detection lottery.


That's very unlikely. If you talk to anyone working in a public library or a local non-profit assisting elderly/homeless people, you will notice these issues are systemic and not isolated cases. From the cases i would see first hand, nothing would suggest that they had been compromised in any way.


More likely is that they are behind a CGNAT.




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