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https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2023/Gree-Recalls-1-56-Million-...

> Gree has received reports of at least 23 fires, 688 incidents of overheating, and $168,000 in property damage with the recalled dehumidifiers. Sold At: Home Depot, Lowe's, Menards, Sam's Club, Sears, Walmart and other stores nationwide, starting in 2011 through 2014 for between $110 and $400.

It kinda looks to me like every dehumidifier sold in the USA+ for the last decade, then?



The dehumidifier I bought last year is not on either list, but it is a bit more expensive than most models.

https://www.midea.com/us/air-conditioners/dehumidifiers/easy...


i got one like that, does the job. but they also got a recall some time ago https://www.recallrtr.com/dehumidifier


I don’t know anything about midea except their U shaped window AC units are genius.


They also make the innards for almost all microwave ovens: https://youtu.be/YSrVG74Emyk


If you want a “BIFL” microwave, get a commercial Panasonic unit https://youtu.be/y53UOFerOFU


Unless there is a commercial unit with an inverter, and that is the one you are looking to buy… I would stick with residential. You will never go back after using a good inverter microwave.


What makes inverter microwaves better? The only potential improvement I can think of is rapid on-off switching so that lower-power modes are better than 10s on and then 10s off.

Answered my own question: it’s exactly what I wanted. https://www.panasonic.com/nz/consumer/household-learn/techno...


Exactly right and holy shit does it make a massive difference.

For one, the “sensor cook” actually works. Like crazy well in my Panasonic.

And two… if you use the power settings as they are supposed to be used it is a game changer. Like the difference in completely cool outside with a frozen center, to actually defrosted and barely warm outside.


Mine just died yesterday after “someone” placed a metal bowl in it. Don’t do that. Otherwise I was happy with it, got it at Costco. Thanks for website, I didn’t even realize fully what I had before it was gone.

Those pictures of differences of cooked food are worth a look. Maybe one day I’ll get to do an actual AB test.


I took my beloved inverter and put it at my work because it didn’t fit in the new house.

I A/B all the time, it’s not even close. I hate our house microwave but stupid GE (not actually GE) won’t make a slate colored inverter microwave!


I don't have one, but I just looked them up and they are genius.

First they're way more powerful than most window acs, quieter too, both are made possible because they moved the compressor and hot side outside. They also have the window open way less due to the u shape, making the whole thing leak less heat. All in all it's really genius. Also the price point is remarkable.


That's pretty scary, since the common wisdom these days is that appliances bought from brick-and-mortar stores should be safer/more reliable than the random thing bought off Amazon.


The aggregate safety of appliances bought through brick-and-mortar vs random imports is that failures are more readily tracked by the CPSC and patterns of failures will result in recalls.

If you're one of a small group of people that buys a dehumidifier from a brand that's active for 3 months on amazon; chances are that brand isn't going to be included in the recall notices when the samey design sold with persistent brands at major retailers is determined to be unsafe.

On the other hand, who's got a dehumidifier built in 2011-2014 that still works? I'm on my second one since 2019, and while the dehumidification is still working, the pump seems to be on its way out. On the first one, the compressor stopped spooling up not long after the warranty period ended.


Surprisingly I have one from 2008 (fridigare) I just unplugged because it’s listed on the 2016 site https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2017/Gree-Reannounces-Dehumidif... so people should check the latest and earlier recalls.


I have an LG dehumidifier, and it is rock solid. It also automatically turns back on and recalls settings after a power failure. I've only had it for two years, but it's been good so far.


Turbine compressors spool up, that compressor turns on. :-)


Well.. in this case, it doesn't really do either; but terminology noted. :)


It's scary the same way planes are scary. Think about number of devices sold. One model malfunctions and it's on HN front page.

Very unlikely events happen sometimes and its those kind of events that you see in the news.


Planes are scary. They weigh an incredible amount and need to pick up a dangerous amount of speed while carrying a ridiculous amount of fuel before they can become airborne.

What makes them seem safe is the layers of safety systems we've built around it.

Likewise, anything that connects to 110V lines in your house is equally scary, and news that the safety systems might be entirely inadequate for an entire class of products rightfully gets attention.


For example, Samsung fridges with their poorly-designed ice makers and defrost cycles: https://www.classaction.org/blog/looking-for-updates-on-the-...

After repairing this myself half a dozen times and seeing how they designed their (our) dishwasher with its DD82-01373A one-piece molded plastic part with integrated non-removable uncleanable sensor that we had to replace for $150 because it got a bit of particulate matter stuck in it, we’ve sworn off all Samsung products and try to warn everyone we know that they’re garbage. That plastic part also has a 1/8th turn plastic locking knob that sits inside the washer and is easily knocked off by the errant plate, causing a leak down the side for which one must uninstall the dishwasher to resolve.


My first hint that Samsung was a garbage production company:

https://www.androidauthority.com/kryptowire-android-vulnerab...

Then there's the bloatware, the smart TVs, etc.

Yeah, no Samsung for me either.


yep, the news pools all the crazy outliers spread across big windows in time, geography, demographics, whatever the universe is of interest, and reduces them to a concentrated dose.


or using a li-ion battery is scary, driving is scary, going outside is scary, eating food is scary, drinking water is scary, breathing air is scary.


I think of all the things you mentioned, cars are the scariest and one where people very much underestimate the risk.

Although the "wrong" food is also very deadly and underestimated, but that one is tricky because it takes a long time to act and the results vary a lot by individual.


Plus people don't clean the filters or give them proper clearance.


Yeah... well, I've gotten a lot of dud products from Walmart lately. The only reason I go there is I'm in a small town and they ran everybody else out of business, so they have a monopoly over most goods unless you want to drive 100km to get to a competitor


Walmart and Amazon sell a lot of the same stuff, sometimes just under different “brands”. https://youtu.be/4UrqlMfwUC4 has more info. There aren’t that many companies making cheap neon curly straws — they probably come from the same factories.


All the more reason not to.


The appliance bought at the brick-and-mortar store could get a recall; the random thing bought off Amazon wouldn't have one is it's at similar levels of setting things on fire.


Both can be true, and probably are.


There was a similar recall 2 years ago, for a different list of products.

https://www.consumerreports.org/appliance-recalls/dehumidifi...


The dehumidifiers that I destroyed (cut the power cords and mailed them in) a few years ago were replaced with something else. I don't recall the name of them, but they were sent to me as part of the recall at no cost. It would be kind of amusing if the replacements were part of this recall.


Do you mean every dehumidifier made by Gree or every dehumidifier period? I have an LG and haven't seen a picture of it in any of the articles.


I meant "made by Gree" but that appears to be almost every dehumidifier sold, so there may not be much difference.


Costco sells DeLonghi dehumidifiers, so not quite all.


Guess who actually makes (some, all?) DeLonghi dehumidifiers? Gree.




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