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Only this would make me consider going back to the office: a 5 hour workday, paid as 8. The 3 remaining hours would be compensating for the commute, which includes the time to get dressed. Commuting costs and food should be compensated as well.

Nothing else. Even with the above, I would still prefer a hybrid or remote positions as long as I have a choice.

Standing on a crowded train is not something I want to do every day (once a week is plenty), there is simply nothing the company can offer to make me reconsider.



> which includes the time to get dressed

Thanks for mentioning this. It drives me crazy how people think of commute time as the time their engines are running, whereas the overhead of doing so is relatively significant.


Not just dressing or engine running but everything.

When wfh I can prepare breakfast during morning meeting wearing wireless headset. When going into office I either had to make food before I leave or go out of my way to buy something (on way to work or at work).

It's not hard to listen in on daily morning meetings and prep breakfast or same with lunch.


Do you guys actually WFH in your underpants?


Generally yes. I typically prefer just being in my boxers at home. No shirt or pants. Always strip down to that the moment I get home too.

Many times if I needed to be on camera I'd only put on shirt long enough to be on camera and make sure my camera was positioned high enough that if I stood up. My boxers wouldn't be seen. Buy even then it did happen from time to time.


I’m always in my home wear, t-shirt and shorts.




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