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We're in the process of wrecking our own ecosystem.

We have the military capability to wipe ourselves out at any moment. The use of nuclear weapons has been discussed a lot lately, even nuclear first strike.

And when some natural threat arises — take the pandemic for example — we turn on each other and bicker. "Don't Look Up" seems quite plausible.



Above statements are proving my point. Despite its many flaws human civilization is stronger than ever and is on the verge of expanding beyond the home planet.


Proving what? With a sample size of 1 that is all just survivor bias so far... and after all we know it is ending soon

We need a real godly or technological wonder (a real wonder, not something like fusion what is on the horizon), or maybe just humanity coming to reason and agreeing and uniting and doing the right thing (ok yes, now I am getting really ridiculous, the least likely to happen) to avoid that filter.

With a bit of luck humanity may endure though.. in the hundred thousands on medieval level with some more luck..


> Above statements are proving my point.

I don't really see how.

> human civilization is stronger than ever

I don't really see how.

> on the verge of expanding beyond the home planet

I don't really see how.


Really? You don't see how our civilization is stronger than it's ever been? You don't see how we are on the verge of expanding beyond our home planet? Just, don't see it huh? Perhaps you're not the person that should be explaining to everyone what is painfully obvious and what is not then.


> Perhaps you're not the person that should be explaining to everyone what is painfully obvious and what is not then.

You didn't even understand my comment. I meant it's painfully obvious to me. It should have been obvious that I didn't mean it was obvious to everyone, but obviously some people can't see the obvious.

I could write a long essay on why we're not on the verge of expanding beyond our home planet, but I feel that it would be a big waste of time. I'm not going to change your mind, you're not going to change my mind, and that's one reason why humanity is ultimately doomed.


> I could write a long essay on why we're not on the verge of expanding beyond our home planet

The reason that essay would be long is because you'd have to explain away so much progress from multiple independently operating space industries.


"progress"

We have a handful of humans living temporarily in Earth orbit. We have precisely zero humans living permanently off planet. That's not much progress toward a self-sustaining space colony millions of miles away in an extremely hostile environment.

We don't even know whether the human body can survive long term in the much lower gravity of Mars. Life on Earth didn't evolve for that. The whole idea could be doomed from the start.

Launching rockets is the "easy" part. That's not progress. The hard part is living in space.

Not to mention, even if we could live in space, we're going to bring our own nasty instincts along with us to any other planet. The instincts that are causing us to destroy our ecosystem here and fight amongst each other. If we can't live on Earth with peace, harmony, and sustainability, in an environment that was practically made for us, then what makes you think we can live in another environment that's totally hostile to all life? We'd be sending a clown car to Mars.

In general, we have too many people filled with visions they've got from science fiction, and not enough of a dose of science fact. Perhaps the most realistic bit from science fiction is the part of "Contact" where they're debating whether to send a Christian or an Atheist on the mission. Then extremists blew it up anyway. That's our human reality.


I'd call going from nobody ever having been to space to a handful people living in space seasonally for work progress. Define progress?


If I could change your mind would we still be doomed?




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