The problem with the discussion is, most people here against alcohol sound to me like vegans. I mean, unable to discuss the "I only drink twice a week a beer" argument. To them even touching alcohol makes one a drunk-driver-wife-beater, deserving no less than high tower scorn. Not very helpful for an argument...
> … most people here against alcohol sound to me like vegans.
There’s a pretty big difference. Most people who drink don’t harm another living being, while those who eat animal products are supporting harm towards animals.
I understand the vegan perspective but not the perspective of the use who criticize causal drinking.
Killing perceived as causing “harm” (or not) is a somewhat non-trivial philosophical question. In an important sense, death is a social construct. From this point of view, the importance of one’s staying alive is measured by the impact on the society (starting with their family). The life of a chicken, therefore, doesn’t matter, with the exception when it is a pet. (At the same time, the life of a hen who is raising a flock of chicks is important.)
That’s quite a reductive view to justify hurting a living being. Harm literally means “ physical injury, especially that which is deliberately inflicted” and a chicken whose throat is slit is clearly harmed. Animals don’t die instantly and it’s unreasonable to say “we aren’t harming a chicane by killing them if they didn’t produce value to society.”
I’d expect humans to have more empathy and not try or reason their way into needlessly killing a creature who doesn’t want to die.
