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There are some social bubble dynamics that affect the discussions you read, here and on various subreddits or other forums.

1. People believe there should more abundant affordable housing. BUT...

2. A lot of people here despise rural people, as a matter of cultural tribal affiliation. And also a lot of people here hate cars, which is 50% environmentalism and 50% about despising rural life as a matter of cultural tribal affiliation (I suspect that car hate would persist even if zero-emission solar powered vehicles became the norm).

Therefore, we need more affordable housing, but only in the "cool places" where I want to live. Basically, I just want my rent to go down, and cultures that I don't like to cease to exist. Or this seems to be the line of thought, if you distill it down.



> A lot of people here despise rural people, as a matter of cultural tribal affiliation.

I have seen way more city bashing then rural people bashing here.

> Therefore, we need more affordable housing, but only in the "cool places" where I want to live.

The mass is moving where the jobs are. Really. There are cool places and less cool places, but the places lacking housing are the ones where people move to have work.


The rural bashing is the underlying given; how dare anyone suggest living someplace that doesn’t vote at least 90% like I do.


Absolutely not. I live in a rural area. A car is a necessity but it isn't my ideology. Living in cities is a lot of fun. Living in cities built for people and not cars is life changing. No hate for anyone here or there.

My car is a tool. Full stop. If provided an alternative I would take it (and have).


> A lot of people here despise rural people, as a matter of cultural tribal affiliation.

That's a great way to shut down a reasonable conversation! Makes a great talking point for rural politicians, too.




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