I’ve got quite a lot of experience with non-IT enterprise, in Denmark, and almost nobody uses those fancy new technologies around here. Over the past few years everything has moved to typescript (typically with react, but some angular remains from older decisions), dotnet, Java, php or c++.
That’s basically it. The only job listing to even mention things like Rust in the region where I live in the past 5 years is Google, and they list it as “nice to have” on a recurrent phd position for c++ development.
Python is obviously a thing, but not so much for software development, but typically requires you to be a statistician first and then maybe capable of writing a little Python second.
So there is probably a bit of a disconnect between what is hip and what puts food on the table for a lot of us.
You’re probably on to a lot of it too. I recently got back into development, returning from a stint in management, project management and enterprise architecture and I’ve grown quite fond of typescript and the node environment.
It’s obviously a place where you can cause a lot of harm if you brute-force-program 100% or the time all of the time, but it’s also a place where you can create some great business value faster than I’ve ever experienced elsewhere. I mean, I can do things faster in Python but only until whatever I’m doing outgrows what I’m capable of keeping in my head.
That being said. Looking at the previous 20 years of getting to running office365 in your browser, sort of explains why people have been working so hard to come up with newer and smarter things, doesn’t it?
For the vast majority of us, however, the boring old languages are likely going to be around long after we retire, and as such, the “popularity” measures in these articles is probably not something to pay too much attention to.
While non-IT enterprise is a big job marked, I guess the HN crowd leans towards the startup scene. There are plenty of python/django and ruby on rails and node companies in copenhagen :-)
Oh this is very true. There are actually a few django and Ruby on Rails jobs open in my area (region midt) on a fairly regular basis. There are a lot of node jobs as well as most things have moved to have some sort of TypeScript front end.
I’m not sure those really count as “new and hipster”, however, I mean the person I was replying to was lamenting “react” being old. ;)
That’s basically it. The only job listing to even mention things like Rust in the region where I live in the past 5 years is Google, and they list it as “nice to have” on a recurrent phd position for c++ development.
Python is obviously a thing, but not so much for software development, but typically requires you to be a statistician first and then maybe capable of writing a little Python second.
So there is probably a bit of a disconnect between what is hip and what puts food on the table for a lot of us.
You’re probably on to a lot of it too. I recently got back into development, returning from a stint in management, project management and enterprise architecture and I’ve grown quite fond of typescript and the node environment.
It’s obviously a place where you can cause a lot of harm if you brute-force-program 100% or the time all of the time, but it’s also a place where you can create some great business value faster than I’ve ever experienced elsewhere. I mean, I can do things faster in Python but only until whatever I’m doing outgrows what I’m capable of keeping in my head.
That being said. Looking at the previous 20 years of getting to running office365 in your browser, sort of explains why people have been working so hard to come up with newer and smarter things, doesn’t it?
For the vast majority of us, however, the boring old languages are likely going to be around long after we retire, and as such, the “popularity” measures in these articles is probably not something to pay too much attention to.