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Going from a single host name to "literal Nazis!" is quite the leap. And everything else like "they walked with torches, ergo they must be Nazis" is not even leap, but just outright BS.


They also railed against "cultural marxism" which is a dogwhistle phrase coined and used by -- wait for it -- the Nazis.

When you take together all the fashy things they do, it kind of establishes a pattern that maaaaybe they don't believe in brotherhood and equality.


Like I said, there's some context to that; quoting from the thread:

"I took some more time to read it up and from what I could see, I found that indeed cultural marxism has become more of a political slogan rather than a normal theoretical term in the USA.

Here in Germany the term “Kulturmarxismus” is much less politically charged from what I can see and thus I was surprised to get this response after I just had “translated” this term into English. It might be a lesson to first get some background on how this might be perceived internationally, however, it is a gigantic task for every term that might come around to you.

So to reiterate my question, what term could be better used instead? :)"

I don't speak German well enough to really have an opinion on the veracity of the claims here, but I see no reason to immediately assume the worst or to doubt that this is how this particular person intended to use this term (regardless of how it's used in Germany in general). People get confused about language all the time, and I'd rather look at the full context instead of getting all hung up on a single term.

This is not an endorsement of those views – far from it – but I really take issue how people just just to the worst possible conclusions on things like this.

[1]: https://lobste.rs/s/nf3xgg/i_am_leaving_llvm#c_lfctpe


The problem with "Cultural Marxism" as a term is that it's extremely ambiguous. Some people use this term as essentially a shorthand for Marxist cultural analysis, which broadly describes any and all Marxist approaches to the cultural sphere. Others take it to refer to a purported conspiracy involving the Frankfurt School's supposed aim to take over Western culture and subvert it from within.

What makes this an especially thorny issue is that there has been a very real fascination with cultural subversion among Western left-wing radicals since the 1960s and 1970s, on the model of the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution ("Destroy the Four Olds, usher in the Four News!") and quite a few of those left-wing radical groups did indeed meld these Maoist ideas with those of the Frankfurt School (for example, "Marx, Mao, Marcuse!" was a common street slogan in the French protests of the late 1960s).

So one could retrospectively surmise that not all of the descriptions one sees in the more conspiratorial accounts of "Cultural Marxism" are entirely without merit. The difference is one of scale, time frame and perhaps motive: was this a purposeful conspiracy involving the Frankfurt School itself from the outset, or just something that arose later within Western radical politics, out of deeply misguided fascination with what was going on in places like China and perhaps Cambodia? It seems clear that the former description is quite wrong, and that those who cling to it are indeed doing so in bad faith. But I can see how some of this could be quite confusing!


I'm German, and "Kulturmarxismus" is not a normal theoretical term. It might be one exclusively used by the far right.




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