I wasn't talking about law, I was talking about ethics.
"There is nothing fundamentally universally wrong to cheat at an exam beside the fact you may be harming yourself."
I don't understand that, I have no idea where you got that. Or what those words "fundamentally" and "universally" add. I say it's wrong, you say "Oh, but it's not fundamentally, universally wrong".. As if it's clear what that means.
For example: You may have harmed the people who didn't get good enough marks because you cheated your way into higher marks. Then you may harm people in your career that you're not qualified for, besides stopping properly qualified people from doing their jobs. I don't want an airlane pilot or doctor that bought their degree or cheated in exams, thanks. Anyway, it seems ridiculous that I have to explain to people why cheating's bad. Well, I don't know, maybe you are in a country where it's normal, perfectly fine, accepted, everyone does it. Where I come from, people don't have to have it explained to them why it's bad.
Yes, cheating is bad. But if you want to be interviewed to the job you need to see if is qualify to the job; some people can be good even if you have not went to the university or other schools, and even if you answered the exam it does not mean you are better at that particular job than another candidate but only that you know the answer of questions (or successfully cheating without being caught) and can be good at examsmanship.
If you are good at mathematics, you will invent a new theorem! If you are good at music, you will compose a new music! If you are good at chess, you can win! If you are good at exam answering, you can earn some more marks (guessing at answers if you do not know the answer)!
'Cheating at an exam' is transgressing a rule that doesn't "exist" in nature, it only exists in our social (if that's the right word) system. So if I cheat at an exam, I'm breaking a rule that's in the system that we made up (together), and therefore I can judge that, in some circumstances, I can break the rule without feeling morally wrong, without feeling guilt, because I, in some sense, made the rule myself. I'm breaking my own-making rule.
Another example of that could be: I want my kid to go to bed at 9pm. Sometimes I will break that rule. To some extend, because of the reasons I've advanced, I claim that cheating at an exam follows the same characteristic as the "kid go to bed at 9pm". Just not in the same magnitude if you will.
I then guessed that it may draws the limit between what's ethic and moral.
Hi again. I don't see how that draws any limit/distinction - it was 2 examples of rules that can be broken, not sure how that helps explain the difference, or why you said that. I wouldn't say bedtime is a moral rule/principle, or that breaking it is unethical. Maybe could make it clearer for me which one was supposed to illustrate what, if one was meant to be ethical, one moral, or something, I don't know. I really have never heard the words used with much or any difference. (I'm no expert, but have read dozens of ethics books, studied ethics/moral philosophy at uni etc)
I'm just guessing here, but maybe you have a religious value system, with absolute moral commandments or something? All I have (as an atheist) are ethical/moral principles exactly like 'cheating is wrong'.
You say 'cheating is wrong'. Fair enough, you can see 'right or wrong' as binary. Or you can live in the real world and understand that things are a little more complicated than that. With all the information you have out here (more than your hypothesis) you can make a fairer judgement. And you don't do judgement without introducing the living anyway because only what's living can judge and be judge-able. It's a social thing to judge right or wrong. So you have to take into account all the system. The living.
"There is nothing fundamentally universally wrong to cheat at an exam beside the fact you may be harming yourself."
I don't understand that, I have no idea where you got that. Or what those words "fundamentally" and "universally" add. I say it's wrong, you say "Oh, but it's not fundamentally, universally wrong".. As if it's clear what that means.
For example: You may have harmed the people who didn't get good enough marks because you cheated your way into higher marks. Then you may harm people in your career that you're not qualified for, besides stopping properly qualified people from doing their jobs. I don't want an airlane pilot or doctor that bought their degree or cheated in exams, thanks. Anyway, it seems ridiculous that I have to explain to people why cheating's bad. Well, I don't know, maybe you are in a country where it's normal, perfectly fine, accepted, everyone does it. Where I come from, people don't have to have it explained to them why it's bad.