Liking someone does not necessarily mean that working with them will make for a good experience. Human relationships are complicated.
I had some experiences working with the guy that were good in some ways and bad in others. The bad parts might have been his fault, or my fault, or both, or might have been because of environmental things that neither of us controlled. There's a good chance that they were caused by a combination of such factors. As always, it's hard to be sure.
He approached me when I was at NeXT. He wanted me to work for his startup. I had reservations. I thought there was a fair chance that it would go badly because of the bad things from before. On the other hand, I still liked him and I wanted my reservations to be unfounded.
They weren't. In fact, it was worse than I feared.
The language I was referring to was the version of Dylan that the bauhaus project used for our OS work. It was basically Scheme plus CLOS plus some functional-programming extensions, and a type system in which all datatypes were CLOS classes.
The development environment, named "Leibniz", was a greatly-extended version of Macintosh Common Lisp that included both the Common Lisp compiler (whose output ran on the Mac 68K-family processors and which was used to implement the whole development environment, including the Dylan compiler) and also the Dylan compiler and runtime, which was initially written for AT&T's Hobbit chips and later ran on ARM.
When bauhaus started our development machines were Mac IIfx boxes with great big Nubus cards sticking out the top. Later they were actual working Newton hardware ribbon-cabled to daughterboards in the Nubus slots.
Leibniz had two sets of everything: one for Common Lisp and one for Dylan. You'd think it would be confusing, but it wasn't, not after the first day or so. There were Common Lisp editor windows and Dylan editor windows. There were Common Lisp Listener windows and Dylan Listener windows. And so on.
That's still my favorite programming language.
I liked the development environment, too, but my favorite development environment ever was SK8, Apple's HyperCard-on-steroids-with-a-built-in-knowledge-representation-system.
If I won the lottery, I'd hire some smart friends to make a new SK8 with an updated version of the old Dylan and a 3D game engine designed for building immersive environments by modifying them as they ran.
I had some experiences working with the guy that were good in some ways and bad in others. The bad parts might have been his fault, or my fault, or both, or might have been because of environmental things that neither of us controlled. There's a good chance that they were caused by a combination of such factors. As always, it's hard to be sure.
He approached me when I was at NeXT. He wanted me to work for his startup. I had reservations. I thought there was a fair chance that it would go badly because of the bad things from before. On the other hand, I still liked him and I wanted my reservations to be unfounded.
They weren't. In fact, it was worse than I feared.
The language I was referring to was the version of Dylan that the bauhaus project used for our OS work. It was basically Scheme plus CLOS plus some functional-programming extensions, and a type system in which all datatypes were CLOS classes.
The development environment, named "Leibniz", was a greatly-extended version of Macintosh Common Lisp that included both the Common Lisp compiler (whose output ran on the Mac 68K-family processors and which was used to implement the whole development environment, including the Dylan compiler) and also the Dylan compiler and runtime, which was initially written for AT&T's Hobbit chips and later ran on ARM.
When bauhaus started our development machines were Mac IIfx boxes with great big Nubus cards sticking out the top. Later they were actual working Newton hardware ribbon-cabled to daughterboards in the Nubus slots.
Leibniz had two sets of everything: one for Common Lisp and one for Dylan. You'd think it would be confusing, but it wasn't, not after the first day or so. There were Common Lisp editor windows and Dylan editor windows. There were Common Lisp Listener windows and Dylan Listener windows. And so on.
That's still my favorite programming language.
I liked the development environment, too, but my favorite development environment ever was SK8, Apple's HyperCard-on-steroids-with-a-built-in-knowledge-representation-system.
If I won the lottery, I'd hire some smart friends to make a new SK8 with an updated version of the old Dylan and a 3D game engine designed for building immersive environments by modifying them as they ran.