*"In the past couple years, however, I have noticed a new phenomenon. Remarkably...

toomanybeersies · on Jan 1, 2016

It shouldn't be surprising that Tinkercad and Slack require JS.

mistercow · on Jan 1, 2016

Seriously, did they think Tinkercad was just going to be a pile of CSS transforms?

artursapek · on Jan 1, 2016

He's probably talking about their home page, which is just text and images selling their product.

bootload · on Jan 3, 2016

"Seriously, did they think Tinkercad was just going to be a pile of CSS transforms?"

To read the front page?

Macha · on Jan 1, 2016

Seriously, I remember using a web chat client (might have been an old version of mibbit) which was "minimal" JS. Basically server side rendering of the incoming messages plus periodic page refreshes. It was a very poor user experience.

acchan · on Jan 1, 2016

pomf.se used to have:

>Enable JavaScript you fucking autist neckbeard, it's not gonna hurt you

It always gave me a chuckle. Most of its clones still have it (e.g. pomf.cat).

detaro · on Jan 1, 2016

From the FAQ at pomf.cat:

> All filetypes but exe, scr, vbs, bat, cmd, html, htm, msi files are allowed due to malware.

Yes, scripting in html never hurt anybody...

userbinator · on Jan 1, 2016

Back in the days of IE4/5 I discovered that turning JS off would very effectively stop pop-ups, pop-unders, pop-ins, slide-overs, and all other manner of irritating cruft, and it's been the default for me ever since. Conveniently, IE also provided (and AFAIK still provides) a way to whitelist sites on which to enable JS and other "high security risk" functionality, so I naturally made good use of that feature.

More recently, I remember being enticed by some site's "Enable JavaScript for a better experience" warning, and so I did, only to be immediately assaulted by a bunch of extra annoying (and extra-annoying) stuff that just made me disable it again and strengthened my position that it should remain off by default. That was certainly not what I considered "a better experience"... now I pay as little attention to those messages as I do ads, and if I don't see the content I'm looking for, I'll find a different site or use Google's cache instead.

Another point you may find shocking is that I used IE for many years with this configuration, and never got infected with malware even once from casual browsing, despite frequently visiting the shadier areas of the Internet and IE's reputation for being one of the least secure browsers. It likely is in its default configuration with JS on, but turning JS off may put it ahead of other browsers with JS on, since the (few) exploits which technically don't require JS are going to use it anyway to encode/obfuscate so as to avoid detection.

yuhong · on Jan 2, 2016

I think it is even the default on server versions of Windows since Server 2003.

PhasmaFelis · on Jan 1, 2016

> I post them to twitter.

Why?

bootload · on Jan 3, 2016

"> I post them to twitter. ...Why?"

As a reminder to myself how lame some sites are and what happens when it's assumed JS is in use.

nissehulth · on Jan 1, 2016

And on top of that, some redirect you to another page to display the no-js-warning. Then you enable JS for the site and reload but will get the same warning because you're no longer on the page you visited...

I think it is mod_pagespeed that's doing this, kinda silly.

J_Darnley · on Jan 2, 2016

NoScript, at least, has an option to catch and stop redirects of this kind. They can be quite funny when you can see a perfectly loaded page that wants to send you elsewhere.