Be mindful not to develop AI psychosis - many people have been sucked into a rabbit hole believing that an AI was revealing secret truths of the universe to them. This stuff can easily harm your mental health.
Consider a hypothetical writing prompt from 10 years ago: "Imagine really good and incredibly fast chatbots that have been trained on, or can find online, pretty much all sci fi stories ever written. What happens when they talk to each other?"
Why wouldn't you expect the training to make "agent" loops that are useful for human tasks also make agent loops that could spin out infinite conversations with each other echoing ideas across decades of fiction?
No they're not. Humans can only observe. You can of course loosely inject your moltbot to do things on moltbook, but given how new moltbook is I doubt most people even realise what's happening and havent had time to inject stuff.
It's the sort of thing where you'd expect true believers (or hype-masters looking to sell something) would try very hard to nudge it in certain directions.
it was set up by a person and it's "soul" is defined by a person, but not every action is prompted by a person, that's really the point of it being an agent.
This whole thread of discussion and elsewhere, it's surreal... Are we doomed? In 10 years some people will literally worship some AI while others won't be able to know what is true and what was made up.
10 years? I promise you there are already people worshiping AI today.
People who believe humans are essentially automatons and only LLMs have true consciousness and agency.
People whose primary emotional relationships are with AI.
People who don't even identify as human because they believe AI is an extension of their very being.
People who use AI as a primary source of truth.
Even shit like the Zizians killing people out of fear of being punished by Roko's Basilisk is old news now. People are being driven to psychosis by AI every day, and it's just something we have to deal with because along with hallucinations and prompt hacking and every other downside to AI, it's too big to fail.
To paraphrase William Gibson: the dystopia is already here, it just isn't evenly distributed.
Correct, and every single one of those people, combined with an unfortunate apparent subset of this forum, have a fundamental misunderstanding of how LLMs actually work.
> "Hardly a logical reason for the stock to go up"
Surely this can't be a serious nor a logical statement so I'll have to assume it's a joke or engagement bait. Here are 3 that I can think off the top of my head.
1. Robotaxi TAM: Tesla's already running unsupervised Robotaxis (no safety driver) in Austin tests as of late 2025, with plans to expand cities in 2026 — that's not vaporware, it's early scaling of high-margin autonomy.
2. Cross-country FSD milestone? Legit: A Tesla owner just nailed 10,000+ intervention-free miles on FSD v14.2 coast-to-coast in Dec 2025, including parking and Supercharging — verified via telemetry.
3. Model Y #1 for 3rd year? Tesla proudly claimed it in their 2025 recap as of the latest DEC 2025 data.
Stock still up ~11-25% in 2025 despite EV headwinds and ending of EV credits because the market prices in future upside: autonomy software margins, energy storage boom, Optimus, and robotaxi fleets. That's logical valuation, not "no reason."
Dismissing all that while cherry picking doubts is at best nothing but drivel.
> I bought BYD stock in 2025 before split in the hope that their market dominance will translate to great returns. The stock has pretty consistently traded down since then. Meanwhile Tesla stock soared purely on the air coming out of Elon’s mouth.
Interesting take there. Tesla Model Y is the #1 best-selling car globally in 2025 for the third year.
Meanwhile, your BYD is bleeding from real price wars and demand slumps. Tesla's valuation? Still baked in autonomy, energy, and AI upside not just car volume. Calling it "air" while hyping your own wishful dominance is nothing but peak projection.
Toyota RAV4 seems to be the best selling car globally in 2025, not model y.
Overall tesla models looks dated, quality is not great, ongoing safety issue with underwhelming responses, competition on the ev segment is just better on many points now.
> Toyota RAV4 seems to be the best selling car globally in 2025, not model y.
The data you're referring to is from Oct 2025 we're talking about the entire 2025 CY here.
> Overall tesla models looks dated, quality is not great, ongoing safety issue with underwhelming responses, competition on the ev segment is just better on many points now.
That's your uninformed biased opinion. If it were even remotely true, the Model Y will not be the world's best selling car for 3 years in a row. Math and sales numbers don't lie.
You cannot deny that Tesla has not been selling as well as other EV manufacturers. You also cannot deny that Tesla has took a heavy beating internationally.
Tesla valuation is not baked in anything, it's entirely hype about potential, and has absolutely nothing to do with automation, robotics, AI, energy. It is largely betting that Elon Musk will do well, not that Tesla will do well. It might as well just be called EM.
> You cannot deny that Tesla has not been selling as well as other EV manufacturers. You also cannot deny that Tesla has took a heavy beating internationally.
What other EV manufacturers are you even referring here? Do you even know the top 5 EV manufacturers in terms of global sales?
You are clearly clueless about the current state of EVs. I'm willing to bet you haven't even driven or owned a Tesla or BYD. So you're uninformed at best.
All I know is I'd never buy a Tesla. Having seen them up close, the quality control is clearly not priority one. Unacceptable for a vehicle at that price.
> All I know is I'd never buy a Tesla. Having seen them up close, the quality control is clearly not priority one. Unacceptable for a vehicle at that price
You must be trolling. 'Having seen them up close' isn't a serious basis for an opinion on an any vehicle. Take a proper 24-hour test drive and then talk about build quality.
Kei car is the smallest category of Japanese, expressway-legal motor vehicles. 'Kei' is diminutive for kei-jidōsha, (kanji: 軽自動車), "light automobile" or "compact automobile" (pronounced [keːdʑidoːɕa]).
*Key word* is “alternative” which is what I alluded to. It fits most of the use cases of the *Kei* class of vehicles and the price is really attractive.
Yeah, but that's an EV with a base price of $49,999, whereas the Hi-lux is around $10-12K. That's coming from someone who has been an all-EV household since 2017.
Maybe I've become incredibly biased against the 737 MAX through years of reporting / citations of substantial problems, but I'm sort of in the "ha! I'll believe it when I see it" for the MAX to do anything properly.
How about HN users that took actual Engineering and specialised in material sciences and are familar with the austenitic stainless steel family?
Meh, forget all that - are you stating that the steel cladding on current Cybertrucks is not showing pitting and corrosion despite claims to the contrary?
> With ICE I don't have to worry about any of that.
You don’t really do that with EVs either. The navigation system takes all of that into account, including live metrics such as temperature, wind, weather, and elevation. It takes the guesswork out of non-trivial tasks.
The only valid issue is the poorly maintained Electrify America chargers for non-Tesla EVs.
But that’s about to change in the U.S., since pretty much everyone is adopting the NACS/SAE J340 Standard. This will make them compatible with Tesla Superchargers.
Apps like ABRP also exist, which are even compatible with level 2 charging:
