Cost of living has been skyrocketing in Toronto and Vancouver as well unfortunately.

I have rejuvenated confidence in Google after seeing the push on Pixel phones and Nest devices, though that confidence still isn't very high.

How long has Google been selling their own phones without making a dent in the market?

It’s estimated that Google sold between 10-12 million Pixels last year (https://www.zdnet.com/article/pixel-3-by-the-numbers-googles...)

It’s estimated that Apple sold four times as many in one quarter (https://www.gartner.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2019-11-2...)

And Samsung sold twice as many as Apple.

I want to get on the Pixel phones but every time I dig details of the latest models, I get turned off. They seem to be always one generation behind, For example, Pixel's highest memory model is always 2nd highest for iPhone and now Pixel can be expected to carry the camera system of iPhone 10 instead of 11 Pro. All these show off in their unveiling events. Google Android events are often held in venues that are ted better than the high school conference room as emergency meetings with amaturish audio/video system. It's as if they have determined that no one is watching this so why even bother. To me, iPhone always felt like they work hard to be a state of the art while Android is something that the rest of the world would have to buy anyway due to lower cost. Given the available cash and talent, they can do MUCH better.

>And Samsung sold twice as many as Apple.

Oh no, quite far from it. More like 50-60% Max. For the past few years Apple sold around 200M iPhone per year, Samsung on average sold around 300M per year.

But your point still stand, Google Pixel shipment isn't making much difference on the market.

I was basing the number on the 3rd quarter figures in the link I cited.

But, fair enough 3rd calendar quarter is Apple’s lowest quarter for iPhone sales - before the new ones are shipped.

While I understand the sentiment, I think most of us are interested particularly in the separated cloud and productivity revenues, which is why people bring this up.

Even though AWS is 'purer' relative to GCP's and Azure's percentages of productivity revenues in their numbers, I don't think we can extrapolate much more than that from the numbers anyways.

I always thought it was funny seeing articles of unlikely-to-succeed VC funded startups and random corporate comms

https://www.fastcompany.com/company/wework

https://www.fastcompany.com/3057415/adam-neumanns-16-billion...

The scientific applications are endless!

Zisss.. could eeeeesssssily be solved viss.... a komputer!

I don't think Azure is behind GCP - from what I've not only read but personally found in their offerings and support teams, Azure and AWS are really comparable for most, and GCP lags behind both.

AWS has better open source managed solutions than Azure and GCP right now, but Azure also has things like a billing console that can integrate with AWS - which is a great feature albeit not being so powerful yet.

Azure and GCP had either comparable or worse UIs for a lot of services compared to AWS, but region specific UIs were a notable unintuitive design compared to others.

Do you think you know or could guess an average response time for ticket responses?

We don't open enough tickets for this to be really meaningful (things generally work as expected), but I'd guess around 8h

I don't think people worry about about lock in for either when deciding cloud providers, considering cloud agnostic solutions exist when it is a concern.