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Good for them. And great of the Patagonia mgmt to give them off.

I am myself off - the company I work for gives us paid time off (not deducted from our paid vacation) from Dec 22 to January 8. Each year. Apart from our 35 days of PTO. Plus 4 days to attend school events. Apart from German public holidays. Oh, and we work less during the spring and summer months. We go down from 38 hours per week to 35. German engineering manufacturing company - 250 employees. Family owned - 5 generations.


US startup I work for is also shut down this week and has a very liberal unlimited PTO policy. I took about 6 weeks of PTO this year, for a variety of reasons, and no one asked a question about it.

A lot of folks in the office work 35 hour weeks, sometimes less, but we are meeting or exceeding our company goals (which were already aggressive).

I think this as really good way to run a company... everyone is always firing on all cylinders when we're working... and when we need a break, we take one.


It's weird to me that this isn't more common in tech. Because we're working with our minds there is not a good direct link to hours worked and output. Certainly No one is constantly able to have 8hr highly productive days (or any) so why not optimize towards high efficiency? Doesn't running "your machine" down just end up creating more, often compounding, (usually small) mistakes that only then need to be fixed later? Isn't what makes humans particularly unique is the ability to do complex and long term planning?


Most senior software engineers don’t have servers in their rooms neither.


Of course not, they can afford to put them in a different room or a dedicated server closet, to keep the noise away from where they work/sleep...


Everyone has 36 minutes to watch a video. Just skip bing watching Netflix.

Poor society we are part of, if everything needs to be consumed in 5 minute chunks.

One should also think and reflect about the content being presented. Grasp the ideas.

It is also about honoring the time the speaker put into the presentation preparing it.


Now everyone sees just layoffs again. But there are so many companies thriving and keeping their workforce. As they are in balance. And are also happy to grow at a smaller pace.


This is so important, growing at a small and healthier pace.

Some companies try to make the reason of their existence to grow as fast as possible, no matter what.... and in the process they destroy the value they originally offered to its customers, processes, people and quality controls.. for what?

There was a class from Darden School that talked about that, I recommend reading this summary from it https://iveybusinessjournal.com/publication/growth-to-greatn...


Not the heat, not the yoga, but “doing sports and moving” reduces depression.

So it could have been “bouldering may reduce depression” or even “squash may reduce depression”.

Why? 1) You move. 2) You can’t do social media at the same time.

tl;dr get out, move, stop sitting on the couch and stop social media.


Yeah, I was surprised to see this on hacker news. I mean it’s a great study and it’s good to know that heated yoga also works, but when I had my run in with depression (which turned out to be ADHD and stress) one of the key things in the recovery program was exercise. Specifically it was to talk walks in one of our forests. So while it’s definitely good to broaden the range or activities that are proven to reduce depression through science, it’s also a little… what is the word for something that is obvious because it’s been proven many times before?

I do find it interesting that they only focused on heather yoga and non-action. I get that it’s about resources, but given that we already know that “getting out there to exercise” works it seems a little strange to not compare with different sorts of activities. It would be much more interesting to me if regular? Yoga also worked as I’m not too interested in doing heathers yoga but have considered the regular stuff. I’ll probably end up climbing though since we have a climbing hall nearby and my daughter is a regular monkey so we can probably go together.


We all know it's just:

1. eating well

2. exercising well

3. sleeping well

But it doesn't mean that one form or exercise can't be more effective than the other.

Intense sweating and higher cardio through heat, stretching, compression etc. on top of exercise may have better effect on ie. lymphatic system, circulation etc.


Swimming in the Rhine river in Basel (Switzerland) has been possible for a long time and is even officially sanctioned by the city https://www.basel.com/en/activities-excursions/swimming-rhin...


Many (Most) of the rivers and lakes are swimmable in Switzerland, the standards for water are incredibly high, more dangerous is not knowing the currents.

Going down the Aare river from Thun/Uttigen to Bern is a hugely popular activity to do in summer, but every year a few people drown. Even so, I'd recommend it.

https://madeinbern.com/en/stories/along-the-aare-river-2#:~:...).


Swiss river swimming is one of the highlights of my year.


Swimming in the Copenhagen harbor (Denmark) is also possible

https://www.visitcopenhagen.com/copenhagen/activities/baths-...

It might have a slight upper hand in cleanliness with being directly connected to the sea.


Swimming in Sydney Harbour is also possible. They did it for a leg of the triathalon in the olympics a couple of decades back. Wouldn't recommend though, there's a lot of bull sharks in there and they're kinda aggressive. Netted beaches and bays are the go.


Only ~1,000km north, bullsharks have been filmed swimming in groups of ~150 near the Story Bridge in the Brisbane River

To any tourists visiting Aus, please only ever swim where locals swim and only between the flags if on the coast


I live in the eastern docklands of Amsterdam, and there's always lots of swimming here. Amsterdam has invested a lot in cleaning up its canals and other waterways and water quality has improved a lot over the past couple of decades. And there's no sharks.


Or the North Sydney pool, when it re-opens, with luck next month.

Not open water, but salt, and an absolutely gorgeous location.


Clean as long as you don't disturb all the mercury in the top layer of the bed.


I saw that, a bit further along from Kastrup sea bath, with the planes coming in to land at the airport.

I guess it's open water unlike the Seine, but it did surprise me, I felt like I was sat in quite an industrial area when a couple walked past in swimming costumes and towels.


The canals in Copenhagen are pristine compared to cities like Amsterdam. I'd dip in there any time!


People swim in the canal opposite my Amsterdam office every day!


In the 1990s, water quality in Amsterdam was pretty bad, but it's improved enormously since then. I live in the eastern docklands area and people swim a lot in the old harbour.


I go in every morning. Massive quality of life factor, that!


So is swimming in the Aare river in Bern, Limmat and Sihl rivers in Zürich, and the Arve and Rhône in Geneva. Floating down in tubes is a popular summer pastime.


Arve + Rhone in Geneva Jonction = pretty spectacle from Jonction bridge, where two distinct waters meet - crystal-clear Rhone which comes down from limestone (majority) part of Alps, has time settle any silt in Geneva lake, so it has easily 15m visibility, jut like most seas.

On the other side, Arve coming down from France is muddied right at the source by Mont blanc range, which is mostly granite. You can see the exact spot where specific stream comes into play, very gray, and it doesn't get much better afterwards.

Its enough to get big river like Rhone dirty all the way to Mediterranean sea. Also, after Jonction Rhone becomes pretty cold to just swim in even in warmest summer days. But yes many tkae it down during summer on inflatables, including us.


i’ll chip in for London.

while the thames can be swam upriver of Putney Bridge, there are conditions as the Thames is a busy river. but there are other spots in London where one can do wild swimming.

for example:

london royal docks https://loveopenwater.co.uk/swimming-london-royal-docks/

canary wharf: https://canarywharf.com/whats-on/open-water-swimming/

the famous ponds in hampstead heath: https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/green-spaces/ha...

the famous hyde park lido: https://www.royalparks.org.uk/parks/hyde-park/things-to-see-...


I might add, these places are not part of the river Thames and have their own sources of water for the most part


Rotterdam here. People swim in the Maas all the time. Just be careful of the container ships and other water traffic.

There are lots of canals and rivers all across The Netherlands and people are swimming in them more and more. When I used to live in Utrecht the idea of swimming in the Oudegracht was disgusting. But I was visiting last month and saw people doing it. I still wouldn't swim in that canal.


I often went swimming in the Rhine as a child in Germany, around 50km south of Frankfurt.

We had a rubble beach and the river only was 1m deep for half its width.

Was pretty nice. The water was colder than in the lakes and it came with a natural counter-current system, so you could swim in-place.


That far upstream is probably safer than say in NL.


One can also decide to just be a https://1x.engineer


10x being real or not aside, if there's a 1x-type they certainly don't do many of the things in this list in my experience and certainly not:

>Writes code that others can read.

>Reads the Docs.

>Updates the Docs.

In my experience, half of the differentiation between above average and solidly "1x" or middling devs is reading documentation and obtaining a deeper understanding of the tools, language, platform they're developing on top of.


Or a grug brained engineer https://grugbrain.dev/


And I thought this was about static test firings of their rocket engines…


Sometimes I think English language is not that great

EDIT: though I don't know if there's better alternative


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