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The only thing I took away from that page was the fact that they removed the pipe symbol. Basically rendering 20 years of linux programs garbage. (I guess we can remap it, but wtf).

The pipe symbol is like the windows-button of linux – except way more powerful.


Its most likely optimized for YouTube, Netflix, google docs and hangout... You should look out for Chromebooks if you are looking for a small laptop to hack on and install Linux


Hard keyboards on mobile devices are meant to make typing faster. Soft keyboards enable you to easily access symbols and other less-often used parts of a character set quite a bit more easily than using shift keys on a hard keyboard. You also have handwriting recognition that recognizes diacritical marks, which makes those easy, too.

You can also use any bluetooth or usb keyboard with any Android device.


It's not just the pipe.

* no braces or square brackets

* no tilde

* no backtick

* no backslash

* no ESC key

* the TAB key has also been severely shrunk, the quote/double-quote key is also much smaller than normal

> all the function/quick access keys are gone


On a really, really shitty platform without a package manager and a decent CLI.


I've done barely any MS development to speak of. However, I have done extensive development using CLI-based tools and I've used excellent IDEs like Jetbrains'. The power a good, integrated tool gives you over less integrated environments is tremendous. I rarely need the CLI anymore for development, so maybe with good enough tooling it doesn't matter.

Now, I hear MS' tools compare favorably with Jetbrains'. If that's true, that sounds like a pretty decent platform to me.


um, really shitty platform i nwhat regard? Also, VS has had a package manager for a while and Powershell is more than capable


I don't understand the people who compare PowerShell to a CLI on Unix/Linux. They're worlds apart and not even comparable. PowerShell is like a little set of APIs you can use to get at data - nothing outside of that, play within the rules - but those APIs are pretty good when they do exist.

Unix/Linux CLI is a core set of tools that get you at literally everything you could want and give you unbounded power and flexibility.

Worlds apart.


"PowerShell is like a little set of APIs you can use to get at data - nothing outside of that, play within the rules "

Bullshit. It's engineering rule that all Microsoft products have all the admin capabilities exposed via powershell.

Most admin gui's are now simply a call to a powershell command.

You can pipe, and redirect input/output just like unix shells.


Microsoft fanboy here (and OP of this sub-thread). PowerShell is a great example of how the two camps never meet in the middle. The syntax is mind-numbingly stupid. Also it's a scripting language not a shell -- but if they called it PowerScript people would just make fun of it for being bad Python. The syntax is hideous.

And let's not talk about the shell itself which -- dear lord.

Meanwhile Unix folk will never realize how much time they waste with broken scripts that have three sets of nested escaped quotes just so they can get text from one place to another -- even though "plain text is everything" hasn't really solved problems in a robust fashion since the 80s. Add in six different variations on regular expressions, a couple Python 2 vs 3 wars, endless battles of how to handle service startup, and the the fact that basic tools like sed and grep are stuck in some BSD never-never land on the Mac and you've got yourself a real mess.

So when you're writing a script to move users, mailboxes and databases around? Maybe that PowerShell ain't so verbose after all. Better to type a little more now than deal with the pissed-off VP with an umlaut in his name later.


If you do this, keep it in the privileged range (< 1024) or you run the risk of your ssh server crashing and some malicious normal user binds to your unprivileged port with a fake sshd and grabs your root password.


It seems the quality of many of the songs are sub-optimal. Would be nice to have some sort of bit rate indicator in the GUI so that I could skip the 128kbps songs. Other than that it seems to have everything I've looked for


As far as I can see, they prefer 128 kbps Vorbis (but I'm not that good with Coffee script): https://github.com/hiphopapp/hiphop/blob/master/coffee/_play...


They should allow you to choose the "preferred quality" in Settings. Show you say the 192kbps songs first, and if they can't find that song of that quality, then show you the ones in lower quality, in descending order.


quality indeed is my main concern too ... I haven't started using any of the cloud services simply because none (that I know) provides lossless music.


WiMP recently launched a lossless streaming service (http://wimpmusic.com/). It's not available in the US though.


thanks, they seem to be looking for how much people is waiting for the service to be available in other countries ... so I just registered!


Also Qobuz.


> quality indeed is my main concern too ... I haven't started using any of the cloud services simply because none (that I know) provides lossless music.

Have you tried performing an A/B test to see if you can tell the difference between lossless CD audio and 192 kbit AAC (the format used for 720p video on YouTube)?


hi, no I haven't A/B tested those but I'm sure the videos sound very good. The hifi equipment is probably far more important than the quality issues of a 192AAC vs the CD.

Yet, I think you're looking at it from the wrong perspective, let me give you an argument.

Keeping the sound of good quality while lowering the bandwidth is an issue; the 192bit AAC is a great achievement in that regard.

Recording and reproducing music with highest quality is another; the CD itself is not entirely lossless in this context.

So I just think for a music streaming service it would be nice to not diminish the music quality at the source of reproducing chain.


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