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I know its been a few days, but have you looked into the new Bluebeam offerings and do you see that as competition for you guys?

https://www.bluebeam.com/bluebeam-max/

Their first example is counting fixtures


Fair callout — Bluebeam Max does touch estimation. That said, we've talked with 20+ subs and almost none know them know exists.

The reality is people that work in construction (Excluding field work), refers to AI as a scam and compares it to the crypto hype back in 18 .. compares it to crypto in 2018 — all hype, no landing.. seriously they do not like it.

I built this selfishly. Eight months ago I wished I had a programmatic interface to interact with drawings. So I built one.

last point: our customers aren't just doing takeoffs and they aren't just subs or gc's either — they're building tools in the construction tech space and estimation is one use case. The broader opportunity is making all that structured data accessible.

great q!!

Also I didn't see Claude there "ai" tool (a bit weird they are letting the model providers own the entire interface) count any fixtures, and if it did it was probably pulling it from the markup's table which is enabled via their api, which you can technically just slap an llm on top of it. But hey kudos to them - this space is not easy. (https://developers.bluebeam.com/s/studio?language=en_US)


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What do you foresee being the end use case for this (or most valuable use case)?

Anyone building in or for construction tech — whether that's a startup building estimating or project management software, a construction company with an internal tech team solving this themselves, or a builder looking to automate their workflow. The common thread is drawings. Every one of those groups lives and dies by their ability to extract actionable data from a PDF that was never designed to be machine-readable. We're building the layer that makes that possible so they don't have to start from scratch.

Why does the workflow lie at the level of a real or virtual piece of paper and not in the metadata from the applications used to create that piece of paper? Seems like a CAD tool would allow you to identify each element of the drawing, assigning metadata as required.

Only a small set of construction stakeholders participate in the CAD ecosystem (e.g., architects, large GCs) while a broader set of stakeholders (subcontractors, trades, smaller GCs/CMs) do not receive BIM files and work with PDFs. CAD/BIM is a wonderful aspiration but for many the reality is PDFs.

Re. "CAD/BIM", technically speaking CAD doesn't imply BIM, and the industry's promotion of BIM is akin to AI promotion among software engineering teams - the benefits aren't clear upon detailed review of the advertised capabilities. The CAD part, on the other hand, is generally recognized as the essential tooling for the profession and I'm surprised to hear that it just is a "wonderful aspiration".

"The profession" actually is a wide variety of trades, not just architects and contractors. Electricians, plumbers etc. where CAD is not yet widely spread. Which hopefully will change in the near future, with open source BIM tool chains, boosted by generative/agentic AI.. Finally, a huge source of confusion and execution hiccups will be overcome.

Until then pdf rules!!!

Oh you sweet summer child. These draws are anywhere from 0 to 120 years old and might just be something pulled out of a floppy disk from 1970 to scanned in coffee ridden pieces of paper sitting in a desk folded a hundred times.

The world in which metadata is a common thing attached to any file doesn't exist, and probably never will, no matter how much you try to improve CAD work flow.


> Oh you sweet summer child

I know you're just repeating a phrase from a TV show but do you know how incredibly condescending this comes across to most people?


The bathroom height example in your video is really interesting (checking the bathroom height above the toilet against building code), how does it know when to check drawings against code provisions and how does it know which code to look at?


We infer the applicable codes from the project metadata + the drawings themselves.

The location + occupancy/use type tells us the governing code families (e.g., IBC/IRC, ADA, NFPA, local amendments), and then we parse the sheets for callouts, annotations, assemblies, and spec sections to map them to the relevant provisions.

So the system knows when to check (e.g., plumbing fixture clearances) because of the objects it detects in the drawings, and it knows what code to check based on jurisdiction + building type + what’s being shown in that detail.

The model still flags with human-review intent so designer judgment stays in the loop.


Gotcha, so the model is identifying elements on the sheets and determining when to run code checks? Is the model running thousands of code checks per drawing set? I would imagine there are lots of elements that could trigger that


Yep, the model identifies objects/conditions on sheets (fixtures, stairs, rated walls, landings, etc.) and triggers the relevant checks automatically. It can run thousands of checks per project, but we only surface high-confidence findings where the combination of geometry + annotations + code context points to a real risk. Humans stay in the loop to confirm what matters.


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