We're tracking prices and packaging for food since 2012 at Open Food Facts, and we have a food archeology project: https://wiki.openfoodfacts.org/Project:Archeology https://world.openfoodfacts.org/open-food-facts-mobile-app

Feel free to add what you have in your attic ;-)

Some friendly but direct advice (as I've wanted a clear and up-front shrinkflation evidence website forever): if your goal is to get people to contribute examples, then those landing pages are failures.

The first link reads like it's basically nothing. No content. A single photo of ancient sardines with no caption or purpose. It's some backrooms internal Wiki page. "Possible uses" like you're not even sure what you're doing. Your first sentence makes no sense: "Log on Open Food Facts food products that are not sold anymore and were on sale there..." That's gibberish. "Where to find the products"? What products? What? What is this page?

I'm not trying to be rude, just give you a chance to hear how it reads to a user unfamiliar with what you're doing, looking at it whatever that is for the first time.

The second page is dominated by a donation banner, and it's already a hard sell to get someone to download an app. What I gather from the first graphic is that this is a carbon-neutral, EU effort to get me to eat bugs or soy paste. The graphic literally means I have to weigh my personal enjoyment with someone's conception of what's best for the planet at large (and historically that's meant things like "you will own nothing and you will be happy").

yeah, this looks like an internal project page. not something meant for the public. what i would do is to create a different page specifically for contributors that has instructions on how to add products, and ways to look at the lists of products. by name, by category, by year, etc. also a search field to look for specific products.

And meanwhile, the Italian food lobbies are blocking Nutri-Score adoption at the EU level

I'm not sure nutri score is helpfull, most people don't understand how it even works and whats actually being compared for the rating.

Nutriscore is a meme because it only refers to products in the same product category. Some Nestle's ultra processed sugary cereal has scores of A-B, it does not mean it's healthy, it just means it's less bad than other sugary cereal slop. It's very misleading.

Yeah, in America they have processed level score thing alike and use it in schools.

I was wondering: have you spotted Open Food Facts as a database (with 4 million products). If so, any reason you chose not to use it @pobbypablo ?

The reason is that most apps use it, and it's full of inaccurate data. I actually tried to fix this by putting a considerable amount of time into building a smaller but more curated database.

On the other hand, when users add foods, only those with a high internal ranking will have their entries shown publicly. This helps keep the database cleaner.

hey @gbriano, Pierre from Open Food Facts. This is a topic (defragmentation of recalls worldwide) we're very interested by. Would you be interested in joining the Open Food Facts/Open Products Facts community ? https://wiki.openfoodfacts.org/Product_Recalls

Hi Josh: Pierre, Open Food Facts NGO co-founder. 1. Generic, non-branded foods & 2. Simple prepared foods that ease food entry: Those two could be solved in a deterministic way, and we'd be happy for a separate Open Food Facts hosted API endpoint (basically a small backend serving a combination of all national generic databases), or improvement to the core software 3. Restaurant foods - Open Prices (our effort to collect geo-located prices on products) could be an entry point to collect menus, and potentially estimate nutrition for food in restaurants, since we have support for products without barcode. 4. Micronutrients beyond those reported by the brand. - We have an issue to propose approximation of micro-nutrients from reputable database: https://github.com/openfoodfacts/openfoodfacts-server/issues...

We're happy to cover more use-cases, so feel free to join the project and contribute your time/coding skills to help us solve those issues. https://slack.openfoodfacts.org or https://forum.openfoodfacts.org or directly https://github.com/openfoodfacts

Hi, Pierre, Open Food Facts NGO co-founder. We have an issue to propose approximation of micro-nutrients from reputable database. Feel free to join the project and contribute your time/coding skills to help us solve this: https://github.com/openfoodfacts/openfoodfacts-server/issues...

Your other comment is too deep in the thread for me to reply, but just wanted to say I appreciate you checking out the project and commenting, and appreciate the many years of effort you've undertaken in this space. How OpenNutrition can work with OpenFoodFacts is something I have thought a lot about (I think MacroFactor set a great example) and it's certainly something I'll consider moving forward.

Hello, Pierre co-founder of the Open Food Facts NGO. We have a multi-year AI effort you can help with. https://wiki.openfoodfacts.org/Artificial_Intelligence We have weekly community meetings, compute to get things rolling, and a swell/quick from Test to Production and Impact loop :-)

It does not seem to bother Dumbo: https://youtu.be/vIlb4-NqlG4?t=11

If you like Nutrition facts labels and Artificial Intelligence, Open Food Facts has a nice AI effort at https://github.com/openfoodfacts/robotoff and https://hunger.openfoodfacts.org/ We do weekly Community Calls if you're interested.