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The part of the slicer connecting to their cloud IS closed source.

Which is itself a violation of the AGPL license by Bambu - if anyone deserves to get sued, they do.

Why do you feel entitled to use their cloud services with 3rd party applications?

Why do you ask about something no one said?

Setting aside that you're putting words in the other party's mouth, you're clearly entitled to do exactly that when the product is sold as having various functionality that depends on the cloud service. If you tell me my new toaster can send a live video of my bagel to my phone then I am entitled to receive that functionality without being subject to your shitware.

That is literally what they said:

> I can no longer use OrcaSlicer to interact with my printers (e.g. sync filaments) and start prints remotely.

The remote interaction with the printer goes via their cloud.

> If you tell me my new toaster can send a live video of my bagel to my phone then I am entitled to receive that functionality without being subject to your shitware.

No you aren't. You might be able to use 3rd party clients, but this is never a given. BambuLab owns their cloud servers, they can choose which clients they will allow to use them.


Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree because we have a fundamental difference in our view here. If they advertised the printer as having certain functionality that relied on their cloud and if the printer was also advertised as working (with full functionality) with third party clients then they don't have the right to later try to block people from using those cloud services.

A SaaS company enjoys full control of their cloud servers and licenses use of their proprietary webapp to you. A hardware company sell a physical product that you own and is not morally allowed to yank functionality later. As far as I'm concerned their cloud servers are part of their product and that's a hill I'm willing to die on. Anything short of that is a blatant bait and switch.

I'd be willing to settle for them offering fully refunded returns to all affected customers who want it. Failing that I'd expect the court system to award appropriate damages. This sort of scenario is literally what consumer protection laws were created for.

Edit: I (and many others) might be operating under a misunderstanding? It looks like all (?) the advertised functionality might be available (at least for now) locally via MQTT. But I'm not entirely clear on that. https://github.com/Doridian/OpenBambuAPI/blob/main/mqtt.md


> if the printer was also advertised as working (with full functionality) with third party clients

I don't think this was ever the case. But I'm happy to be proven wrong here.


It can talk to the printer directly if you use "LAN mode". This also work with 3rd party slicers like OrcaSlicer.

This is false. After the authorization-related firmware changes last year LAN mode doesn't allow 3rd party slicers to connect.

LAN mode is also abandonware with numerous issues and missing features that they've had no interest in fixing. Orca slicer has had to rely on hacky workarounds in Bambu's buggy networking plugin just to be able to connect to printers in a different subnet. https://github.com/bambulab/BambuStudio/issues/4512


> This is false. After the authorization-related firmware changes last year LAN mode doesn't allow 3rd party slicers to connect.

I can connect to my P2S in LAN mode with OrcaSlicer just fine (currently using the latest 2.4.0 nightly).

> be able to connect to printers in a different subnet

This is a separate issue, I think even Bambu Studio can't connect to printers in LAN mode on a different subnet.


> I can connect to my P2S in LAN mode with OrcaSlicer just fine (currently using the latest 2.4.0 nightly).

You either haven't updated the firmware or you also enabled "Developer mode" which has its own issues.

> This is a separate issue, I think even Bambu Studio can't connect to printers in LAN mode on a different subnet.

It's not a separate issue, it's a long-standing bug in their proprietary networking plugin that they refuse to fix. Orca slicer has implemented a hacky workaround so it actually works there.


> This is a separate issue, I think even Bambu Studio can't connect to printers in LAN mode on a different subnet.

Yes, that's the point. The nerworking is broken. The issue isn't unique to a specific slicer, their software sucks. Orca ran into the issue because they wanted to make a basic feature that works on every other printer on the market work on a bambu.


I guess my printer must be magic then because I can use Orca over LAN with the printer in lan mode just fine

So if my printer isn’t working because their network is down, it’ll swap to lan mode for a seamless experience? No? Huh.


Looks like that one changes the pointer with javascript. I guess the only options are to not permit Javascript which breaks the site or use Reader View. Cntrl+Alt+R in Firefox.

Ouch, that is awful.

what?

Nobody will accept a €500 note in Europe - not even banks - you have to get it changed at a central bank, and you can expect a lot of questions, like “what kind of drugs did you sell to get this?”

An easier option if you have one, is going to a forex office in Vietnam or somewhere - and even then they may not take it.

I was lumbered with a couple of them for a few years, until I dumped them in Uruguay.


That's weird. Can't think of a legal basis that would allow the bank to refuse it. They have machines that verify it's not counterfeit after all. People regularly pay for used cars with cash here, and I've never heard of anyone refusing a 500€ note.

Yeah, it's truly strange because up until around 2012, I used to pay my rent with €500 notes when I lived in Spain. Just go down to the bank and get them. Then there was some sort of crackdown on drug smuggling and no one would touch them. Barbaric, rather fascistic or communist way of dealing with a social problem, since of course this means normal people can't pay rent in cash anymore without a ton of bills, and the only real purpose is to track so much more of the casual, unofficial economy. Drug dealers do find ways around.

The irony is that I only know about this game through memes like this. I've never seen an actual ad for it anywhere.


I bought a ~60€ Redragon linear switches keyboard for my office desk to replace the company-provided shitty Logitech, not expecting much, and was very surprised by the quality. So competition is definitely tough.


Are you saying dropping cache after 1 hour is not intentionally degrading performance?


Yes. Caching is a cost optimization not a response quality metric.


But it still degrades performance.


It's unfortunate that the word performance is overloaded and ML folks have a specific definition..that isn't what the rest of CS uses, but I understand Anthropic to mean response quality when they say this and not any other dimension you could measure performance on.

You can argue they're lying, but I think this is just folks misunderstanding what Anthropic is saying.


They didn't just drop cache. They elided thinking blocks even if you recache. That permanently degraded the model output for the rest of the session, even ignoring the bug, if you waited 60 minutes instead of 59.


I traveled some of the countries along the way last year, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan (by hiking and offroad vehicles). The landscape is beautiful, but be very prepared to survive in the scorching sun and dust in the desert for days without any option to resupply food and water. We met some solo cyclists along the way, I have great respect for those individuals. For example, this is how the main road looks like in some parts of Tajikistan: https://i.imgur.com/MlZauBn.jpeg The traffic on these roads consists mostly of Chinese trucks and an occasional crazy traveler like us. Note how a secondary track emerged along the side of the main road because the original one became so filled with potholes.


"be very prepared to survive in the scorching sun and dust in the desert for days without any option to resupply food and water"

I have done Central Asia from Europe to China by bike twice, most recently 2024. Absolutely no problem with resupplying food and water daily. There are food stops and railway-worker infrastructure in the Kazakh and Uzbek deserts. And while Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan have a lot of wild mountain beauty, they are still inhabited. Indeed, local families earn some money by catering to cyclists.


Ah great to hear :), thanks!

Did you do it solo or with someone or a group?


Nice picture :)

The nice thing about going with a group is that it comes with a support vehicle and water/food/bag carrying. Doing it on my own would be about 10x more intense in terms of prep, I think. I've watched a few biking videos where they started getting close to the edge on water and had to ask random houses they finally found.


If you like an epic trek, there's always horseback: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna20925119


Hah, I read his book, it is fantastic and worth a read -> https://www.amazon.com/Trail-Genghis-Khan-Journey-Through-eb...

It also makes my butt hurt just to think about.


There's footage / DVD from his trip also - up on youtube some is, IIRC :-)

Yeah, sore bum, ouchies. That can be bypassed if you don't mind walking, don't mind camels, and don't mind being thought a bit girly:

* https://www.sidetracked.com/fieldjournal/crossing-australia-...

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robyn_Davidson

Our family doesn't mind a long jolly, one of my favourites (that someone else did) was into the more restricted bits of Papua: Cannibals & Crampons (2001)

  In 2001, two British ex army officers set out to climb the unscaled face of Mandela--a remote mountain rising 15,400 ft. above the jungles of New Guinea. This is the extraordinary story of their trek through some of the world's most unexplored terrain.
* https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2142721/

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShIfMP8rfg0


Meanwhile, I still can't use Gemini as my Android Auto assistant.


It is widely rolled out now and not just in the US.


Well good for you, but that doesn't change the fact that I can't use it. Everything is a mishmash of the old Assistant and Gemini. Sometimes even my Google Home answers in the old Assistant voice (you know... "Sorry, I don't understand"


I just got it last week. Still a few quirks, but positive so far.


It seems to forget about what I do and don't have access to (in terms of apps). I've had to remind it that I have Spotify and YT music more than once.

Other than that agreed going okay so far.


Do you have an option to not use it? Google forcefully updated my TV and the normal assistant is gone now


First thing I do after I purchase any smart TV - turn off network access, disable auto-updates (mine is a Sony). So, this way 1) it can collect whatever it wants but it can't phone back home and 2) I don't wake up one day and find myself on a learning curve I didn't sign up for (happened to me once, they completely re-did the UI, for worse!)


How do you watch anything without network access?


I use Apple TV and give it network access instead, this way the TV doesn't have the chance to update. My Apple TV is set to update manually too. Of course, the assumption here is Apple TV doesn't phone home - and I'm no Apple fanboy, but I think this is as close as we get to online streaming with privacy.


Roku


This.

Android feels like more of a liability than an asset to Google these days.


Can you use it as your CarPlay assistant?


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