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I mean Costco’s a membership club. This is NYC. Of course somebody’s gonna show up with a truck and arb any profitable grocery item if there isn’t rationing.

Not being able to get stuff on a pallet or in a 5 gallon bucket or whatever has its own cost. Hell, not being able to invoice on NET30 or have a supplier or even not having to pick and pack stuff has a cost.

That’s not universal. Mine hammered on “it’s better to be interestingly wrong than boringly correct.” Equivocating waffles were returned ungraded.

AFAIK everything I use has timeouts, retries, and some way of throwing up its hands and turning things back to me.

I use several providers interchangeably.

I stay away from overly complex distributed systems and use the simplest thing possible.

I plan to wait for some guys in China to train a model on traces that I can run locally, benefitting from their national “diffusion” strategy and lack of access to bleeding-edge chips.

I’m not worried.


Kinda crazy but hopefully the future holds a Clippy-esque thing for people who don’t know to set up CI, checkpoints, reviews, environments, etc. that just takes care of all that.

It sorta should do this anyway given that the user intent probably wasn’t to dump everyone’s data into Firebase or whatever.

I personally would like this as well since it gets tiring specifying all the guardrails and double-checking myself. Using this stuff feels too much like developing a skill I shouldn’t need while not focusing on real user problems.


This problem is unrelated to CI and dev practices etc, this is about trusting the output of generative AI without reading it, then using it to handle patient data.

Vibe coding is just a bad idea, unless you’re willing and able to vet the output, which most people doing it are not.


> Vibe coding is just a bad idea, unless you’re willing and able to vet the output, which most people doing it are not.

It says quite a lot about where we are with ai tooling that none of the big players have “no need to review, certified for market X” offerings yet.


Fully agentic development is neat for scripts and utilities that you wouldn‘t have the time to do otherwise, where you can treat it as intput/output and check both.

In these cases you don’t necessarily care too much about the code itself, as long as it looks reasonable at a glance.


It is related to CI and dev practices etc. A experienced developer using AI would add security/data protection, even when vibe coding.

An experienced developer would not have created this mess nor 'vibe-coded' (i.e. used AI without checking), but this person probably didn't know what they didn't know and believed the AI when it confidently asserted this mess was the correct way to do this.

None of that is related to the practice of Continuous Integration.


CI doesn't magically takes care of security, that's a naïve understanding of vulnerabilities.

Someone with the right mindset needs to be there providing guidance and architectural input.

And even then that's not enough. Something like a super extensive testing set like in SQLite is the best we can do.


> Did you use an LLM to generate this HN submission?

Must have.

> The Finder will never see the patch.

I wasn’t worried that this eval would show the answer to the model before evaluating it. Seems requirements leaked into this post.


I feel like this will change as people move around. It’s definitely a skill.

Might’ve gotten mixed up with CMOS dominance, or I’m ignorant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead%E2%80%93Conway_VLSI_chip_...

I'm guessing is what they're really talking about. Which is not about NAND gates.


Just to add a bit, but modern digital circuits are almost exclusively MOS, but even the "complementary" bit isn't universal in a large IC.

I believe you're not ignorant. But many folks probably lack the process knowledge (CMOS) required to understand why :-)

Makes sense. You’re saying why would regulations matter when clearly they can just be ignored.

For venture ultimately it’s a soulless moneyman’s game. Really they have to pick winners, and anybody can look at the landscape and see there’s just not gonna be a Pierre Zuckerberg or a Klaus Kalanick. And if there ever is, he’ll need to raise lots of money anyway, which would come from venture.


> there’s just not gonna be a Pierre Zuckerberg or a Klaus Kalanick

Which is very much a positive. Those two aren’t a boon to humanity, they very much made everything worse at a global scale. We need fewer people emulating them, not more.


I don’t know either, but playbook item #20 has:

> The mechanism consists of a revenue-based levy applied to all commercial providers placing AI models on the market or putting them into service in Europe, reflecting their use of content publicly available online. This levy would apply equally to providers based abroad, creating a level playing field. The proceeds would flow into a central European fund dedicated to investing in new content creation, and supporting Europe's cultural sectors.

Presumably Mistral is putting forth the most pro-AI position possible for the region.

So it sounds like anyone doing what you described is at risk of a tax that will make their offerings uncompetitive.

So why even bother?


Why not just force them to to build the common infrastructure and services, and in exchange they get to keep the money? e.g. Jeff Bezos has to build some subway stations in NYC or something.

That way you get somebody with a proven track record of building big projects who is also motivated by money, so the common infrastructure and services is handled competently.


> Why not just force them to to build the common infrastructure and services, and in exchange they get to keep the money?

Because it is undemocratic, ripe for corruption and abuse, will never work in practice (as the rich will inevitably find ways to game the system). What you are describing is basically just aristocracy, where the rich get to decide what is best for the rest of us.


Hm, wouldn't it be better to just have proper labour laws so that people are not worked to exhaustion in Amazon warehouses, for miserable pay?

Similarly properly regulate the gig economy.

And actually pay servers properly so that they don't have to rely on tips?

The today's life is enshittified by thousand cuts ... why not fix them?

All that is required is a legislative body that is not bought by big $$$.


Ah yes. Let's trust civic engineering to a man who ran a company that had front-line workers using piss bottles to keep up with quotas. This cannot possibly end badly.

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