What I understand is Codex takes more time to gather context to make the relevant changes; with more context it may give a more precise response than Claude Code.
With Claude Code, I can 'tune' the prompt by feeling how much context the model needs to perform it's task. I can mention more files or tell it to read more code as needed.
With one hour of experience of Codex CLI, every single prompt - even the most simple ones - are 5+ minutes of investigation before anything gets done. Unbearable and totally unnecessary.
It has the same context. It does not take that long to ingest a bunch of files. OpenAI is just not offering the same level of performance, probably due to oversubscription.
I have used Github Copilot extensively within VS Code for several months. The autocomplete - fast and often surprisingly accurate - is very useful. My only complaint is when writing comments, I find the completions distracting to my thought process.
I tried Gemini Code Assist and it was so bad by comparison that I turned it off within literally minutes. Too slow and inaccurate.
I also tried Codestral via the Continue extension and found it also to be slower and less useful than Copilot.
So I still haven't found anything better for completion than Copilot. I find long completions, e.g. writing complete functions, less useful in general, and get the most benefit from short, fast, accurate completions that save me typing, without trying to go too far in terms of predicting what I'm going to write next. Fast is the key - I'm a 185 wpm on Monkeytype, so the completion had better be super low latency otherwise I'll already have typed what I want by the time the suggestion appears. Copilot wins on the speed front by far.
I've also tried pretty much everything out there for writing algorithms and doing larger code refactorings, and answering questions, and find myself using Continue with Claude Sonnet, or just Sonnet or o1-preview via their native web interfaces, most of the time.
I see, perhaps with Gemini because the model is larger it takes longer to generate the completions. I would expect with a larger model it would perform better on larger codebases. It sounds like for you, it's faster to work on a smaller model with shorter more accurate completions rather than letting the model guess what you're trying to write.
The Aider leaderboards seem like a good practical test of coding usefulness: https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/. I haven't tried Cursor personally but I am finding Aider with Sonnet more useful that Github Copilot and its nice to be able to pick any model API. Eventually even a local model may be viable. This new Gemini model does not rank very high unfortunately.
Thanks for the link. That's unfortunate, though perhaps the benchmarks will be updated after this latest Gemini release. Cursor with Sonnet is great, I'll have to give Aider a try as well.
It's on the leaderboard, it's tied with qwen 2.5 72b and far below SOTA of o1, claude sonnet, and deepseek. (also below very old models like gpt-4-0314 lol)
I know you aren't necessarily talking about in-editor code assist but something about in-editor AI cloud code assist makes me super uncomfortable.
It makes sense I need to be careful not to commit secrets to public repositories but now I have to avoid not only saving credentials into a file but even to paste them by accident into my editor?
I tried it briefly and didn't like it. On the other hand, I found Gemini pro better than sonnet or 4o at some more complex coding tasks (using continue.dev)
I tried Cursor the other day. It was actually pretty cool. My thought was, I'll open this open source project and use it to grok my way around the codebase. It was very helpful. After that I accidentally pasted an API secret into the document; had to consider it compromised and re-issued the credential.
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