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This ignores that non-developers have gone from 0x to 0.5x.


they are saying the prompt is the source, the code is the artifact. I think it is a valid comparison. when reviewing a PR, I do want to see the prompt(s) that generated the change.


My latest feature was an overarching change across 4 different stacks, about a full work day of going back and forth iterating on different designs, generating workarounds for stack/language specific quirks and the business' usage patterns. Multiple fresh agent sessions, review passes, exploratory work with subagents, etc. "The prompt(s) that generated the change" in that context is multiple hours of discussion, Q&A, refactoring and feedback. Is that really the value, pages and pages of reactive prompting?


Yes. Because that is where the intent is/was. In the future, as more changes are made, having the history of the intent is helpful context. And in that back and forth there are also details of what you didn't want, and why. Some of that can be captured in decision docs, etc.

when devs work in isolation, that context/memory is siloed. Same is true when working across platforms (codex, claude, etc).


Yes.

The value is in how you came to the design you expressed.


What puzzles me is, what matters is context. Most of the context would be the specific model I used and its training data, the result of tool calls, and the model's inner monologue/thinking (which is increasingly getting encrypted by frontier models). My prompts are a tiny sliver of that, and most of them dependended on the actual answers I was getting from the model in the middle of the whole process. Or the result of handoffs, or internal compactions.

What's the value of getting all my prompts if the rest of the equation is unknowable? Unless you mean the value is in the full agent log, but even then, frontier models and harnesses would still be hiding a major part of the equation from us.


Wouldn’t the same argument apply even if they didn’t use AI? Being able to drill into coworkers minds would be nice on many occasions.


I'm not sure what level of detail those prompts you write about have so I might misunderstand you.

Before AI we had prompts called "requirements" and of course they were the starting point for reviewing code: the customer needs X, the code doing that is Y.

With agents that prompt became much longer, with the original requirement a short note at the beginning of the conversation with the AI, but the resulting code is about the same size. Maybe in YOLO development the original requirement is all the AI needs but I'll be surprised because requirements from customers are too fuzzy and can be turned into very different features, often too different from what the customers had in mind.

Actually I never looked at the detailed prompts of coworkers, only at the original requirements from customers. How they instructed their agents is not particularly interesting except maybe to get a gist of the different approaches.


though Okta is the first provider working on the enterprise mcp stuff.


It’s a new SKU. You’ll have to pay for that new type of app.


agents are pretty good at cleaning up a codebase, finding dead code, fixing bad abstractions, etc. You just have to spend some focusing the agents on that goal.


my cellphone has been named “sneakernet” for years. it’s a throwback to a time when it was faster to walk a zip disk across campus than it was to send it.


I'd walk with my CRT monitor and tower (stuffed all cables, mouse, keyboard inside) over to my friend's to play games/mess with computers a couple decades ago. We called it the "sneakernet", too.


A simpler time, with South Park on RralPlayer. And before with Leisure Suit Larry.


And if you use your cellphone as a USB mass storage device, it still is!


it’s the wifi hotspot name.


Fun fact. My wife and I met on something similar in 2006 or so. "My Blog Log" was a sidebar widget that showed other people who we reading that blog. She was in marketing, I was in tech, and it was a blog at that intersection written by Rex Hammock (RIP).


Ohhh, I would love to hear a similar story like that for a couple that met on TownSquare!!!


i have been thinking about this from a different direction: how do we make these shared within a company in a way that increases the productivity floor of the team/department/company. Sure, they can still be extended/enhanced by individuals, but we don’t need everyone configuring mcps, building institutional memory, etc.

for me, it’s not about the cost to leave, it’s about lowering the cost of onboarding and change.


I think the fourth would be "lie to those who want you to tell the truth".

His father's saying may have been: "There are three honest ways to make a living".

The fourth option is where scams and fraud live.


Some might argue that lying to those who want to be lied to is still usually dishonest.


Nashville is paused too. I don’t know why.


I assume he is calculating the loss as depreciation - what they would have spent on cloud bills if they hadn’t been doing this locally.


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