Why did they even bother putting resources into that project? Bizarre.

It’s telling how scarce vision is.

It’s an incredibly useful product for the people who can use it.

It just isn’t the next Microsoft Office. A market of 10M people vs 2B!

Most people here have no idea what works for the majority of people - who don’t want to spend time figuring stuff out.

I’m sure many here live in delulu land wondering why everyone doesn’t find the open claw stuff as fascinating as they do.

Yes. And that’s not a criticism of average people. Tools should fit the user not the other way around. Designs systematically removed shadows and visual clues. Developers render buttons off the screen requiring a scroll to submit. Hard to criticize the user under those circumstances. But there are people with art brains, and math brains, and software brains. So it may be the case that AI adoption is limited by how it expects the user to relate to the tool

The whole point of click and point (gui) was that one barely had to engage the brain vs using a terminal.

The ideal experience is where one’s resources are able to be allocated such that one can achieve some goal with minimal effort. We are very far away from this ideal with llm’s and absurd amounts of money has already been spent.

Most people don’t want to accept and believe that the only viable revenue stream is selling tokens in relation to software development.

All the other stuff is nice… but you will continue to be money losing and eventually die.

Now you can’t come out and say this because there’s a whole bunch of investments that depend on hype - think about the robotics nonsense.

There is some revenue in copywriting, translation and generating images. But that is probably 20 per month per seat enterprise plans with limited use. With the possible cost of interface varying enough to have actual marginal costs...

Is it actually profitable? That the presumed market leader, Anthropic, changed their business model just today to kill off their buffet monthly plans and switch to a la carte for Enterprise makes me doubt they are making money off of selling tokens to software developers.

I never commented on profitability, only revenue.

And I’m referring to selling tokens to enterprises that produce software.

lol is that you Sam?

People who participate in the stock market (which tends to be many people who may even be anti-capitalist) do so in the hope of generating excess returns.

Is this really a function of capitalism or just who humans really are in general? That is to say humans are self interested and desire to maximise their own wealth.

> That is to say humans are self interested and desire to maximise their own wealth.

In capitalism, yes.

Sure, that’s an observed human behavior. You can also observe altruism, compassion, empathy, etc.

Capitalism is designed to force everyone to maximize personal wealth, because wealth determines resource allocation. Other societies did it or do it differently.

That's nonsense.

You do not have to 'maximize' your personal wealth and nobody is forced to do so. Many people choose to do so, voluntarily. That's the essence of free markets. It just so happens capitalism not only complements the notion of free markets, but enables more markets to exist than otherwise.

You can't have it both ways.

Reasoning by analogy only works if the characteristics that comprise both things are shared in great magnitude.

If you really believe that then… lol.

It’s easier to view it in terms of DCF - the value of a cash flow generating asset = present value of expected cash flows discounted back at a risk discount adjusted rate. In other words what you’ve invested into your existing assets is irrelevant - the cash flows generated by them and the growth assets through future investment, is what matters.

But you can use squarespace/shopify etc for that…

That’s exactly why you haven’t lost it.