Yeah its interesting reading this and right afterwards looking at this 297 point AI slop submission. Fucks sake. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49541888

AI slop, "297 points", this fucking site is a joke.

This is true, and doesn't even get into low-effort generation (and the 'perturbing') slightly disguised and then no one sees it at all.

AI discource is irrevocably fucked due to posts like these 2023-tier opinions.

I fully agree. https://arctotherium.substack.com/p/the-closure-of-the-inter... is a great read, when it comes to social bubbles and misinformation

Man the cope on HN is something else. Neighbour, 99.9(9)% of professional mathematicians don't go around creating new mathematics. The goalposts have been moved so far that we're now at "AI isn't Grothendieck yet".

"ideas are cheap" was one of the most succesful psyops of all time, so unbelievably wrong

I still think it's correct. Execution is the part that matters.

Almost everyone I know "came up with" some startup, ex. Uber before Uber existed, yet none of them did it. I have personally thought of maybe 2 startup ideas that later came into existence.

Come to think of it, people in my circle that have ideas left and right are _still_ not founding companies even with modern LLM's that supposedly solved programming, clearly there is a disconnect somewhere.

Ideas are seeds. Seeds can be cheap or expensive, but perhaps what we want to talk about is not the _cost_ of ideas but the _value_ of ideas.

The correlation between cost and value can be very complicated, especially in the chaotic world (or chaotic situation).

In university in 1995/96 I remember having to put my bank card details into a website to pay for something. I hated the idea that some third party would probably be storing these details and could in theory abuse them or leak them.

I was thinking it would be great to have a trusted middle man to use to pay for things that wouldn't expose my own bank card details to every website, or to be able to generate one off transaction numbers.

Possibly "bad ideas are cheap". A lot of people got tired of "ideas guys" who never build anything themselves. The best case of a raw idea is an uncut diamond, it will inevitably require work.

Most people (and most companies) can't tell bad ideas from good ideas. This is also true of LLMs to some degree. They need post-training in specific domains (e.g. coding) to become competent in that specific area.

The other half of the one-liner is "Ideas are cheap. Execution is everything."

- E.g. an idea is "Everybody should have cheap housing! Or an even better idea, everybody should have free housing."

- Ok, how exactly in concrete terms do we actually do that? (The very expensive Execution of the idea.)

- "Uh, well, I leave that as an exercise to the reader."

Ideas are easy and execution is hard. That's what jaded people mean when they say "ideas are a dime a dozen".

"Execution is everything" is unfortunately tautological in that it implies you first reach success, then you measure the execution and idea.

It leaves no escape-hatch to judge that an idea is bad. And bad execution can only be spotted if somebody else does good execution.

Similar to saying a startup needs to get product-market-fit to get success. Success defines that you have product-market-fit.

We are all horrifically bad at thinking about cause and effect, or talking about it.

But yes, I've slowly learnt that doing anything often matters more than a grand idea.

> psyop

Who's pushing an agenda and why?

big idea wants to keep all the ideas to itself

ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini have already been filtered. https://x.com/arctotherium42/status/2037324942069342679

Your comment is also potentially being downvoted with AI. Crazy times we live in.

Cannot help but think Claude team are busy adding gimmicky side features instead of doing 'real' RSI and bugfixing.

The lovely irony of a bleeding edge AI company being afflicted by the most mundane problem of all software engineering—the goldfish attention span of human coders.

Have any of you tried their support bot? Its insane bleeding edge AI company gets away with such experience. The bot decides the issue is solved and closes the ticket. WTFFF.

similar to claude code, they need to revolutionise customer support. Maybe from a ticket, if the agent decides if its real bug, and legitimate, it will go on and fix it.

>The lovely irony of a bleeding edge AI company being afflicted by the most mundane problem of all software engineering—the goldfish attention span of management

FTFY

Shiny thing syndrome at its finest.

I don't think the product people and the RSI-adjacent people are the same people.

This is actually a form of AI psychosis.

It's really hard not to especially if you enjoy building.