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> [distributes] AND [facilitates the download of]

Grouping braces and capitalization mine. So distributing also required. However it's still overly broad, vague, and ambiguous.


Supply management does have its problems, but given the involvement of imperfect humans nothing will be without problems. Canadian pork, beef, and vegetable farmers that I personally know also complain that they can't enact supply management for their sector. They also envy the appearance of high profits, an easy life, and government subsidies & bailouts (yes, Canadian dairy farmers still receive those) for those in a supply managed sector.

At the end of the day, consumers get stable and somewhat realistic prices and supply, while farmers also get stable income.


> consumers get stable and somewhat realistic prices [...] while farmers also get stable income.

Which? You can't have both. Input costs are subject to the whims of non-supply managed markets. When, say, input costs rise either the farmer has to absorb that cost (unstable income), or the cost has to be passed on to the customer (unstable consumer price).

> and supply

Oh? https://www.ctvnews.ca/atlantic/article/some-maritime-grocer..., https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/cana..., https://farmersforum.com/cracks-in-supply-management/


> > consumers get stable and somewhat realistic prices [...] while farmers also get stable income.

> Which? You can't have both

Maybe not in USA. Looks like another problem that only one developed country says is impossible to solve.


> Maybe not in USA.

Maybe not. I grew up on a Canadian dairy farm, and have continued to farm in Canada ever since, so that is beyond my expertise. I have not participated in US-based farming. I can only meaningfully speak to Canadian agriculture.

A connection to the USA is interesting, but what you are trying to get across is not entirely understood on my end. Perhaps not having ties to the USA means I don't have an implied context? Fill me in. I am curious.


You said "You can't have both" on "consumers get stable and somewhat realistic prices [...] while farmers also get stable income."

So, you say a country can't have stable income for farmers and realistic prices for consumers? Allowing to waste some produce and subsidizing farmers seems to be working in Europe (and probably in Canada). We have stable (but higher) prices. When you said we can't have that, I thought you are from USA, they are famous for having problems that are solved everywhere (like universal healthcare and gun violence) and it's a very known meme[0][1][2].

[0] https://x.com/BernieSanders/status/1116082388344422400

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/l55sv4...

[2] https://images7.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED206/66c508dbb70...


> So, you say a country can't have stable income for farmers and realistic prices for consumers?

The topic is supply management. Supply management cannot offer both consumer price stability and stable incomes for farmers at the same time, as was explained in more detail in the previous comment. At least not in a world where the non-supply managed markets aren't also stable. Of course, if non-supply managed markets are also stable, then this whole thing is moot. The original premise was that non-supply managed markets cannot be stable, thus why it was said supply management is necessary.

> subsidizing farmers seems to be working in Europe (and probably in Canada)

The whole idea behind supply management is that there isn't a (direct) subsidy. Technically the government compelling consumers to buy from an organized monopoly is still an indirect subsidy, granted, but indirect subsidies lose the control that direct subsidies have. You are right that in theory a direct subsidy scheme could allow both stable incomes and stable consumer prices at the same time, but that is not the system Canada uses here.

> I thought you are from USA

Why? What would someone from the USA know about Canadian agriculture? I expect most Canadians don't even know anything about this topic. If I weren't a Canadian farmer, I sincerely doubt I would have been able to contribute anything.


But it is solved here, its whats happening.

Food prices are mostly stable (relatively speaking)


A farm on the western side of Canada has been doing something similar for years:

https://langleyadvancetimes.com/2025/08/09/record-breaking-u...


My experience supports nearly all of this. In 2022 I decided to keep my 2019 F-150 gasser instead of getting a Lightning because the Lightning was ridiculously expensive, even though Covid kept the value of my truck close to what I paid for it. I also didn't want all the Lightning's luxury features that tend to fail and highly depreciate over time. We do >12hr drives for work & family through remote BC and I was still willing to try the EV for such trips but didn't see the payback. In hindsight it was a good choice given the actual range experienced by Lightning owners.


Our favorite is still PDF-XChange [1] which has been our daily driver for years. Only dislike is the difficulty in opening a document in a separate application window. It's either everything in one window or everything in its own window.

[1] https://www.pdf-xchange.com/


> Since a human uses ~100W of power, the .24Watt-hours of energy > for an AI prompt is about 40human-seconds of energy.

.24 Watt-hours is 864 Watts for one second, so a 100W human takes ~9 seconds for that output.


You're right. It's clear I should have had an LLM write my comment rather than do it myself before a cup of coffee. I've already spent an order of magnitude more energy thinking about this article compared to an LLM.

Also, since I live a first-world life style which consumes multiple KW of power, I've probably consumed multiple orders of magnitude energy more than an LLM on this topic.


Perhaps sxp used an LLM to do his calculation.


Why are the Arxiv and Nature versions so different, even the text?


As another comment mentioned, papers get revised during review, usually in response to reviewer comments. Also, some journals (not sure about Nature) do not allow authors to "backport" revisions made in response to reviewer comments to preprints; I guess they view the review process as part of their "value add".


Its quite common to revise papers. For example, they might have uploaded to arxiv in order to submit to a conference. Later, they revised and submitted to Nature.


Arxiv is mostly meant for preprints for peer review.

In a Nature paper in particular, the final layout is typically done by the journal's professional production team, not the authors.

Not all publishers grant permission for authors to upload the peer-reviewed and layouted postprints elsewhere.


They have their beauty as objects of art, but certainly not as a place that I would enjoy occupying or being around. Brutalist architecture with a Chinese flair.


Most of it doesn't look brutalist to me. See this for example: https://www.pritzkerprize.com/sites/default/files/styles/max...

It looks like a normal house just without paint.


I bet you live in SF and find the Tenderloin 'pleasant' and 'not so bad if you don't go out at night or alone' too.


I looked up Tenderloin and it all looks quite normal traditional architecture? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenderloin,_San_Francisco#/med...

Whats the problem there?


Ah yes when I'm surrounded by active drug users and the mentally ill my first thought is to architecture as well.


And why do you think that matters to this topic at all? I don't live in SF I don't know about its crime rate. How on earth is the architectural quality in any way shape of form related to crime rates? Why even bring up such a ridiculous unrelated point?


Its about aesthetics and if you can't figure that out then its obvious why you find bleak soviet apartment blocks appealing and concrete bomb shelters.


That location in SF then isn't an example of brutalism or soviet aesthetics either if I go by the photos I found on the internet. It was a totally irrelevant example.


I don't live there so I can't comment on level of crime. But architecturally I find no fault here.


$1400 a year in electricity at a high rate of $0.15/kWhr for all 8,760 hours in a year is about 1 kW in power savings. Reality check:

A typical 3-phase 2hp industrial motor [1] is over 85% efficient and typical 10:1 reduction gearbox [2] is 94% efficient, which results in about 3kW power usage and 20% power lost to heat, or approx 0.6 kW. If their motor is 100% efficient, used in a 100%-duty-cycle application, in an area with high electrical costs, and with similar reliability to the standard AC motor, this gives $800 or so in savings per year.

In a more typical application with a 50% operating duty cycle and $0.10/kWhr, and guessing at 96% efficiency for their motor, we're down to maybe $200 per year in savings. Larger (>=5hp) motors can be 91% or higher efficiency bringing savings down even more. I can't imagine how C-Motive will equal the reliability, so any extra maintenance could quickly wipe out the savings.

I would guess that a variable-frequency drive (VFD) on the above AC motor, used to control speed and improve the power factor, would have the same efficiency as their motor controller. So I only looked at the AC motor + gearbox versus the C-motive motor + fluid pump.

[1] - https://www.baldor.com/catalog/CEM3558T-5#tab=%22performance... [2] - https://www.bostongear.com/ecatalog?page=product&cid=worm_ge...


I often ponder what the generator algorithm might be when I am solving "insane" 13x17 Kakuro puzzles [1], because there always seems to be just enough logical paths to solve each puzzle. Well done!

[1] - https://krazydad.com/kakuro/index.php?sv=13x17I_v1


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