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I think the question is: why are they behind anything to begin with?

Conduit all the things and paint to match?


People prefer how it looks and it's also more convenient to have a square room and no irregular protrusions stopping you pushing furniture up against the wall.

In the UK it used to be common for pipework to be exposed and painted. Electrical conduit is pretty common in "industrial" places like garages but the number of sockets people expect now would mean you'd barely have a flat wall anywhere.

The current preference is definitely for clean looking, square rooms. When pipes don't fit in the walls themselves, like soil pipes or around boilers, they are boxed in or hidden away in a cupboard.


This is essentially what some industrial-style lofts do.

Probably not legal.

Generally things that are illegal are illegal because enough people have maimed or killed themselves with it in ways that are not “common sense”. For example, you can’t simply have electrical wire stapled to the bottom of the joists in the basement because people might try to hang clothes off of them.

You don’t need to explain that to me.

It's legal and done quite often in industrial installations - look around the next time the lights are up at your favorite restaurant, for example.

It is more expensive, by more than you'd think, and so it's rarely done.

It also allows all of the trades save the drywaller/painter to be rough and tumble with what they're doing; it doesn't have to look nice behind the walls.


> had very little success in getting people to host their own things. Most here at HN will not do anything that requires more than their cell phone.

You're just talking to the wrong ones :-)


You're just talking to the wrong ones :-)

I do hope you are right. Governments have more than enough low hanging fruit to go snatch up and then pat themselves on the back.


This is virtually identical to tools the US Department of Homeland Security uses across each social media platform and major website with comments to monitor sentiment and activities.

Congrats, I guess.


I was also told this by someone randomly while working at a coffee shop here in DC. Something about CGA.

I am not sure how much the average person realizes that drones in both a reconnaissance and observation role or an attack role have changed the nature of warfare and have threatened localities.

We don't have good tools to deal with them, especially groups.

It would be trivial, right now, for a few fpv drones to cause extreme chaos somewhere like a popular highway in Los Angeles, and the amount of economic damage that could do.

It's a technological shift in how warfare is conducted, but from a protection standpoint, the tools aren't great to counter them yet.


Yeah the answer to

> Don't they already have some sci-fi laser/EW gizmos to take care of those considering how much taxpayer dollars go to the defense sector?

Is pretty much a flat "no". Or at least "not yet".


If we had tools, the airport would never have been shut down.

It's a shame the F-22 wasn't publicly allowed to get its second A2A kill! ;)

Fyi, the f-22 logged a second kill shortly after the first:

https://apnews.com/article/pentagon-shoots-down-unknown-flyi...


Which is generally believed to have been a radiosonde launched by hobbyists in the US:

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/18/1158048921/pico-balloon-k9yo


So centralizing control over personhood. Got it.

> Have your state adopt STAR voting or score voting and see what happens.

There have been ongoing efforts to ban things like ranked choice or other options at the state level and now it's being pushed federally (Make Elections Great Again act MEGA).


Notably, the party that has enacted laws banning ranked choice and any other option than FPTP in states where they have power? Only one: Republican.

Missouri banned RCV via ballot measure. Alaska is a deep red state that has RCV and rejected a ballot measure to remove it.

And RCV still sucks. Let them ban that one and use the better one.


Hold up.

> Missouri banned RCV via ballot measure.

That's true, but it's not honest. What actually happened is there were TWO parts to it.

The first part, which is the part people actually read:

> "The amendment also changes a line in the Missouri Constitution to specify that “only” U.S. citizens have the right to vote, rather than “all” U.S. citizens."

The second part banned rank voice voting.

Nobody, I mean nobody read the second part.

The first part of the ballot measure was _already illegal_. It was simply used as a tool to scare people into voting against rank choice voting.

At least one place in Alaska, I think two boroughs, have local laws that allow RCV.


> Nobody, I mean nobody read the second part.

Obviously what you should then do is get a ballot measure to redundantly ban non-citizens from voting and non-redundantly adopt score voting.


Ranked choice voting sucks anyway, and that section doesn't seem to prohibit score voting. You're not "voting" for more than one candidate, you're scoring all of them; you're not "ranking" candidates, you're scoring them (and you could e.g. give two candidates the same score); you're not reallocating votes from one candidate to another, you're electing the candidate with the highest score.

It's also not clear that bill is going to pass. It seems full of other things Democrats have a major incentive to filibuster.

It's not even clear that Republicans have any reason to prevent score voting. One of the failure modes of ranked choice is that you can end up with more radical candidates winning where one party already had a majority because it allows the majority party to run a radical candidate next to a moderate one, but then if the radical candidate gets more votes from their own party, the race becomes the radical vs. the minority party after the majority party's moderate candidate got excluded, and then the radical candidate wins. They saw what happened in New York and didn't like it. But Democrats should have exactly the same concern -- what do you think that does if you adopted it in the South -- and in general ranked choice makes polarization worse. Ranked choice actually does suck.

Whereas score voting does something else. If you run a radical, a moderate from the major party and a minority party, the moderate from the majority party wins because there is no run off election, they just got the highest score because they scored better among the minority party than the radical and better among the majority party than the minority party candidate. And when more candidates than that run, the most likely to win is the one that best represents the entire district, which reduces polarization, and that's to the benefit of everybody.


> I get the army drilled this stance into you

Nah, this didn't come from there.


Just like a railway! The last time they tried to strike for (checks notes) paid time off, Congress said "No" and prevented them from striking. Legally.

> I know I will

Are you a minority, LGBTQ+, etc or of a "different" political persuasion that might have any reason to be distrustful of the US government? If so, you probably wouldn't just "be done with it".


No, I'm not, and I also don't live under an opressive government that tracks those people down. I simply don't care if the us government or some random US company knows about what I play, eat, talk about or who I sleep with. And my guess is that outside the US LGBTQ+ and "different political view" bubble, most people also don't care. And that bubble makes up maybe 5% of Discord's user base

The real question is, how much of the "terminally online" population who is more likely to use paid Discord features?

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