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Likely, a smaller phone in the form factor of the (now discontinued) iPhone SE.


The original SE was released "out of cycle" so maybe the sequel will be too?


Well the Se replaced the iPhone 5s at the time. But this time around there is no "replacement" to be made as they have discounted the SE.


No, the 6 replaced the 5s. The SE came a few months afterwards.

That they didn't actually discontinue the 5s at the time is incidental.

The point is, that they do release things out of cycle so just because they didn't do it at the usual time doesn't mean they won't.


Do browsers not have the concept of Background App Refresh when the tab is not active or visible? Do popular apps like Gmail or Slack not support this?


Are you sure it wasn't the apps you were running?


It could be linked to the apps being used (one clue is Whatsapp) but we are still investigating it.


Can I limit resources per tab?

I'd like to give Slack 1GB of memory and one processor core so I don't have it maxing out my CPU and cache every day.


Currently you do not have the option to do it yourself. For now what Station does is it run an algorithm that detects the apps you use the most often and only keep 8 tabs open at any given time. We believe it's best if we can do it intelligently rather than manually. But we also see that some power users would like to be given control over that. Ultimately if we do a good job at doing it intelligently, there shouldn't be any need to do it manually. It's still a work in progress.


Plus, iOS 12 is going to significantly improve performance on all devices as far back as the iPhone 5S.

When was the last time a major Android update made five-year-old devices faster?

https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-12-preview/features/


I'm looking forward to it. It's fast now because it's at least 4x more powerful than my old one (going by benchmarks), but I won't turn down 40% more. Especially if that translates to better battery life doing average CPU-light stuff.


Every android update since 5 had made my phone at least twice as fast (ui) and maybe 20% extra battery!

Of course, I don't rely on manufacturer updates.


blink So, Pie will be 16x as fast (ui) on the same hardware as Lollipop?


I wondered if anyone would pull me up on this :D

I was of course careful to say had, and obviously this rested on the fact that lollipop was so universally shit for the ui.

Also, of you think about a ui getting faster, a fixed 200 percentage increase peer iteration, means the absolute speed increase gets relatively smaller as they approach zero.


Does this fix the plethora of UI bugs introduced by iOS 11? By comparison, the final release of iOS 10 was very stable.


Are their growth rates comparable?


You don't need more than 8GB of memory. I doubt anyone could notice a difference in real world performance between 8GB and 16GB.

The PCIe-based SSD in the Macbook Pro is so fast that virtual memory is equivalent to RAM for all practical purposes.


Well, talk for yourself.

I need typically 32-64 GB RAM (virtual machines, etc.) and 16 GB is painfully little.

Different people have different needs.

Oh, and I don't think Macbook Pro's RAM bandwidth is just 2 GB/s. Even phones have 30 GB/s RAM bandwidth nowadays.

Besides, you don't want to ruin your SSD by constantly swapping.


RAM is at least 10x faster than SSD memory so Im not 100% sure where you're coming from. If you're doing any kind of VM work (or just want to use more than two or three electron powered desktop applications at a time) 8GB RAM in 2017 is going to be pretty tight on a development machine.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR4_SDRAM -- see peak transfer rate


I do embedded dev, and I need very little RAM for the embedded compilation environment and even doing large circuit designs.

But I regret getting 8GB on this 13" MBP. Between Electron apps and the browser with dozens of tabs open, it sucks up all the memory. A quick look at current usage: 7GB for Safari, 4GB for Atom, 1.5GB for Slack.

My home machine with 16GB was fine.


> 4GB for Atom, 1.5GB for Slack

WHY DO PEOPLE TOLERATE THIS?

(Caps are intentional.)


Slack: because it's how we communicate internally and with our big clients.

Atom: I have a setup with a project in each window, but also an attached terminal that's all set to go for compiling and uploading to my test boards. It's the nicest solution I've found, the only downside is the RAM. But you've motivated me to check out some alternatives...


I think the OP was referring to the massive memory bloat of these applications.


This. I've been trying to move back to native apps now that every "technologist" out there seems to want to build in Electron to save money on development.

There's no substitute for good native engineering.


> 1.5GB for Slack

Holy shit! Are there clients that take less memory than this, or is their interface completely locked down? A terminal client would be wonderful.


>I doubt anyone could notice a difference in real world performance between 8GB and 16GB.

Just having Slack and Chrome open at the same time causes my "Memory Pressure" graph on OSX to turn yellow on my 8GB RAM MBP.


Electron apps!


"Badly written Electron apps!" - FTFY


Are there any other kind? At least thanks to electron apps we still have a need for Moore’s law.


Visual Studio Code seems like a good Electron app, but I've never checked its memory usage. The point is it's possible to create one though.


We gave our interns the 8GB models this year and they universally had performance issues that impacted their productiivity in a meaningful way.


Yeah, speak for yourself. My work MBP is consistently using 12-14GB. The home one is in a constant state of swap on 8GB, without running much beyond a browser, text editor, and mail client.


I need 16GB because of lots of Chrome tabs + electron apps :(


> You don't need more than 8GB of memory.

You clearly haven't opened a recent version of Photoshop.


Maybe 5-8 years ago 8GB was enough. In 2017? Yeah right.


Everything stated here is false.


Elon Musk's businesses have benefited from billions in federal and state government subsidies and low-interest loan programs over the years.

He's taking huge risks because other people are footing the bill.


And the legacy energy companies are still raking billions in subsidies every year, even before you get to things that aren't counted that way. And the industrial farmers are still subsidized to grow various things.

And FedEx has a huge implicit subsidy via road maintenance. And Walmart, via various welfare policies. And insurance companies heavily benefit from various government policies.

I can think of these all day.


Elon Musk's businesses have benefited from billions in federal and state government subsidies and low-interest loan programs over the years.

Billions in loans? Tesla received a $465M loan from the department of energy in 2010, which they paid back in full, with interest, by 2013.

As for subsidies (ZEV credits, EV incentives, state tax credits, etc)? Tesla receives absolutely nothing that isn't available to all US car manufacturers.


I'm not that familiar with Tesla, but what "federal and state government subsidies and low-interest loans" have SpaceX gotten? Unless you count NASA contracts as "subsidies and loans", of course, which is absurd.


The same could be said about all other businesses funded by VC money, hedge funds and IPOs. One might question whether governments should be involved in market investing, but it's not like Musk is some kind of outlier here.


Traditional car companies have benefitted from trillions in subsidies by being allowed to poison the population without paying for the costs.

I'd much rather have a car company take some of my money in taxes than take my health by polluting.

Remember leaded gasoline? That's only been fully banned in the US for about two decades. Entire generations were damaged, like Flint, MI on a national scale.

But ooh noo, Elon Musk takes some of our taxes, the horror.


So let them stop loaning him money. He's a businessman, he has a duty to exploit any loan from anybody, as long as it's legal. If the peyote really had a problem with it they would cause the government to stop offering loans to Tesla.


Minor nitpick: n^2 isn't the correct factor to describe hyperscale networks. It's much slower, probably n x log n.


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