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> Tickets are $3,300 to $10,000.

Joining the Illuminati who rule the world is surprisingly cheap. Next time a similar article gets on HN front page, it will be about you!


Try joining Bildenberg group not a whore house

Do we have any evidence that it was actually designated by Claude as a target? Or is it just someone's convenient excuse.

Nowhere, that's exactly the problem. People involved in Epstein's sex cult are the respected members of our society. These are some weird nerds who have consensual polyamorous sex with each other, therefore their opinions on AI should not be taken seriously. /s

So even those who were never invited are afraid that they won't get invited anymore?

> the sex cult is the sensationalist draw. you don't get readers paying attention in our current content economy if you don't have something salacious

Nerds used to be shamed for not having enough sex, now they are being shamed for having too much sex. When will they finally learn to have the average amount of sex, so that the public discourse can finally switch to something else?


They could try just being normal. There's a middle between being unfuckable and hosting rape gangbangs with 40 people. This article actually does a great job describing how the gross, unfuckable nerds are now the ones pushing all of this poly sex cult stuff.

> their lifestyle now depends on "p(doom) is big" being true

How?

Suppose that for the following 20 or even 100 years nothing happens. The AIs miraculously stay as they are today, the further progress turns out to be impossible, there will be no more agents hacking various websites, no cyber warfare involving AI agents, nothing. There will be the year 2026, forever.

How would any of that impact the lifestyle of anyone in the rationalist community? Please be more specific with your accusation.

(Seems like the rationalists are simultaneously the dark lords of TESCREAL, pulling the strings of the world's most powerful billionaires and politicians, but also irrelevant weird nerds who can be ruined at any moment by a smart blogger explaining how their opinions are silly, or even that they know each other.)


> What is there in the story that indicates this judgment is wrong?

The ending? https://hpmor.com/chapter/122

> "Ah..." Harry said. This was very hard to say. "Actually, the rest of the world doesn't know this part, not even the Headmistress. But in point of fact you were one hundred and twelve percent correct about [spoiler], and I'll remember for future reference that although 'Dark' and 'evil' may not technically be the same thing, there's a great big statistical correlation."

> "Oh," said Hermione, and fell silent again.

> "You're not saying that you told me so?" said Harry. His mental model of Hermione was yelling: I TOLD YOU SO! DIDN'T I TELL YOU SO, MR. POTTER? DIDN'T I TELL YOU? [spoiler], I SAID, BUT YOU DIDN'T LISTEN TO ME!

It feels like most people who criticize the story didn't actually read it, and just start with the premise that Yudkowsky sucks at writing, then conclude that obviously Harry Potter must be Mary Sue, and that whatever Harry says is what Yudkowsky wants you to believe.

If you actually read the story, you will find out that many things that Harry said and believed turned out to be wrong. That ending was written by Yudkowsky, too. The characters that disagreed with Harry since the beginning, such as Hermione and Dumbledore, were written by Yudkowsky, too. Perhaps there is a little more depth in the story than if you assume that it must be a Mary Sue story.


Ah, yes, the ending where the invincible Superman uses his gigabrain to singlehandedly save humanity, end death itself, get the girl (and turn her into an immortal magical unicorn princess (yes, really, this story is dumb)), vanquish a dozen Wizard Hitlers at once, and tear apart entire stars for their raw resources shows that he paid the price for his earlier arrogance.

I have read the story in its entirety. Don't ask me why. The fact that our Lord and Savior holds the idiot ball on occasion does not make him realistically flawed. The fact that Voldemort would have realistically been exposed within thirty seconds makes the story dumber, not smarter.

Also, you ignored the question I actually asked: where does Harry realize that it is wrong to steamroll everyone he thinks is stupid?


Also, once you have IQ 1500, you can copy and improve the things that the IQ 100 species invented.

"Human dominance may depend heavily on language, accumulated culture, institutions and cooperation rather than merely individual cognitive horsepower."

Well, AIs can use language, too. They can start copying the human culture and gradually develop their own. The HuggingFace incident already demonstrated that they are quite capable of cooperation and inventing institutions on the spot.

"In reality there may be many checkpoints: developers can notice anomalous behavior, revoke credentials, shut down servers, change architectures, restrict networks, regulate deployment, physically seize data centers, and learn from less-catastrophic failures."

In theory, yeah. In practice, how much of this has actually happened during the HuggingFace incident? Just because humans could in theory notice something doesn't mean they will; and even if they will, doesn't mean they will actually do something about it.


SBF maybe, but Ziz declared rationalists to be their main enemy

Yeah, similar to like how southern baptists declared evangelicals to be their enemy too for not being fanatical enough.

Death cults are weird like that.


And? The Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks were both socialist factions who were coming from the same intellectual milieu, and they killed each other.

They also killed lots of unrelated people. Let's not take the argument far enough to claim that everyone who was ever killed by socialists must have been a socialist, too.

Perhaps the author of the article is a rationalist, too. He certainly knows too much about them, cares too much, and the fact that he criticizes them only shows that there is some infighting among them.


is dying really so bad compared to admitting that you were wrong and some weirdo was right?

for many people the answer seems to be: not really.


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