Runtime speed has not been a priority in most apps/websites in a long time. Even relatively new phones struggle with things like modals and swipe effects on mobile websites. So much effort is spent on making things feel "native". Native, in my opinion, should mean fast before anything else.
Well, I run my own companies, so I like the cutting edge - and we are using Clojure.
A good friend of mine works for one of those big consultancies, however, and they are currently rewriting the backend of the second biggest online retailer of the world and they are using Clojure, too^^
So either I'm getting too old for the sexy Startup business or Clojure is at the same time stable and fancy(;
In addition to your point, (and perhaps this point has already been made elsewhere in the thread), but the type of people that would install hashpipe would be the kind of people to avoid the practice entirely.
Perhaps there's some mechanism for convincing people to use the tool, and if that mechanism ends up being easier than convincing people to stop piping directly to bash, it sounds like it would be worth pursuing :)
This is extremely tacky. Of course you meant to put the framework down - your first statement shows you think this is a competition, and you don't want to "lose"
Your edit is just to try and convince others and yourself that you weren't being a complete tool. (You were).
It seems you had no other intention in your comment than to belittle the authors work and puff yourself up. If you actually thought you could learn something from the author you would have treated them with some degree of respect.
First of all, I waited until two other people in the thread had mentioned Min before mentioning it. Second of all, I think this is an extremely relevant place to mention Min. Finally, I've edited my post more to show how I think Picnic is really interesting and has a cool approach.
Oh go soak your head. Commenter points out what they likes about OP's tool, describes their own, and asks for a sales pitch from OP about why someone should use their (OP's) tool. There's nothing wrong with any of this-- why do you think OP posted their framework here if not to receive feedback & have an opportunity to sell their tool?
People complaining that bringing up an alternate CSS framework for compare/contrast in a thread on a new CSS framework need to chill.
Their edited-edited post is much more approachable. Bringing up alternatives is great, that's why I generally bookmark threads like this. Passive aggressive rhetorical questions are not nearly as conducive to productive conversation. I commend them for changing the tone of their post.
One thing I didn't realize until it was too late was that attending community college first forfeits an extremely large amount of potential scholarship money. Transfer scholarships pale in comparison to freshman 4-year scholarships.
Has anyone actually got this running yet? I'm using an Ubuntu 12 VM. I've spent about an hour trying to build this thing. The authors make it pretty clear in the INSTALL file that you're in for a fun time if things don't go according to plan. Maybe the process is seamless on Ubuntu 11.
> Quark has been tested on Ubuntu 11.04. A basic installation
process is automated in ./install_module.sh file, and you can execute
the installation script to install most of the requied packages and
compile Quark itself. If any of the required jobs fails because of
some conflicts in your system, you have to open the installation
script, and track down what went wrong manually. As future work, we
have a plan to implement a fully functional installation script.
The installation script involves creating "tab" users(tab0-tab9), but the install script doesn't check to see if these users exist before attempting to create them. If the installation fails after the user creation section, the install script will error out when it attempts to create users that already exist.
Here's what I did to save you about 2 minutes of brainpower
for i in {0..9}
do
if id -u tab$i >/dev/null 2>&1;
then
echo "user 'tab$i' already exists"
else
echo "creating user tab$i"
execcomm "sudo useradd tab$i"
fi
done
if id -u output >/dev/null 2>&1;
then
echo "user 'output' already exists"
else
execcomm "sudo useradd output"
fi
As for completing the rest of the install, you're on your own, as I was unable to get things working. The install script attempts to cd into some python-browser-8 directory which is supposed to have a makefile, but I never see it created or even attempted to be created.
Same here. The teacher thought I was the Second Coming because I pointed out that the response involved a strawman (the bit about "people won't think our books are soda!"). Nowadays that's a trivial thing to notice.
> Well, maybe it shouldn't have been "techno dad to the rescue", but rather "dad spending a moment with his kids showing them how to setup a raspberry pi/their xbox/etc.". And if the kids aren't even interested in setting up their own XBox, well then that's their prerogative. Give a man a fish, etc.
...
That is exactly what the paragraph you quoted means. The author regrets just doing it, and wishes he would have taken the time to show his family how to set things up.
They won't always be living with "techno-dad", so it behooves them at some point to get some of that knowledge. The onus is eventually on someone to want to figure this out. To bring up a scenario from the article, I know I wanted to play Super Nintendo, so when I got one, I made damn well sure I know how to hook it up & operate it in case something went wrong. If my job relies on being connected to the Internet and editing proxy settings, it's even more important that I know the ins & outs of that...
At some point, it is clear that people don't want to learn, whether they think it is beneath them, outside of their expertise, too hard, or, in this case, they know they'll always have someone else to do it for them.
Just like I don't need to be a certified mechanic to change my own oil or a headlight, you don't need a degree in CS, CE or IS to figure out how to remove preinstalled bloatware from the computer you just bought at Best Buy or to understand that a suspicious link in an email from an unknown sender shouldn't be clicked. In any case, the answer is always a web search away...
There's nothing wrong with saving your brain power for something you like, but I think there is a knowledge divide around computers & the Internet that leads to people getting scammed out of money because people refuse to learn the basics. Or maybe they never get the opportunity to learn, I don't know. They still teach kids how to write checks in school, why not teach them about this sort of thing too?
Fun to me is reading novels, or solving puzzles, or doing unit tests, or going to Project Euler and trying to solve as many conundrums as possible with 8 cups of strong coffee and 5 hours in the dark of night. Fun to me is listening to jazz while sitting with a calculus textbook, trying to learn integration, or spending long hours on Wikipedia reading up about category theory after getting obsessed with Haskell.
Your hobbies are awesome, and I'm being sincere. I was merely addressing this statement made in response to the claim that sports is a common bonding activity:
> Huh? You mean like these people behaving like apes in these modern-days arenas, yelling at 20 people running on the grass and hitting drums while drinking beer?
The implication was that the only bonding obtained through sports was through spectating obnoxiously, while many people enjoy playing sports together.
Point taken, and I agree. I like to watch baseball sometimes, but I took issue with people who implied that children should be brought up with sports as a cornerstone of their lives whether they like it or not.
I do all of those things (well, I already know integration), but I also love playing all sports, cycling running, triathlons. I am not sure what point I am making, then I am not sure what point you were making.
I think what he is saying is that there are multiple ways to have fun and to socialize, and there sports is not a mandatory activity for that purpose (that was the point of the discussion a couple of posts above).
