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And making each click trigger a 20 second DB query doesn’t?

How much you want to bet that’s why it was 20 seconds?


If you prefetch all those options in the background, I bet the DB would be unhappy.

Nah. The part where his name was relevant again because of the jokes and he started the eating and suing people over it.

It was so funny how that whole thing happened.

For the first time in over a decade he was suddenly relevant in a way. People remembered he existed, and they were playing off his tough guy image.

And what did he do? Try and shut it down and start suing people. Stupid.

It took him a couple of years to come around to it. If it wasn’t for those jokes would he be remembered anywhere as well? Or would he be a much more obscure celebrity by now?


> would he be remembered anywhere as well?

You underestimate how popular Walker, Texas Ranger was. It wasn't pulling ratings like Seinfeld, ER, or Friends, but it was a solid primetime staple for almost a decade.

I never watched it myself, but the 50+ demo loved it.


Maybe for people in the US. Internationally? I haven't watched a single episode of WTR, I don't know anyone who has, but everyone knows who Chuck Norris was.

In France, it was popular enough that everybody knew Texas ranger before the Chuck Norris jokes.

We used to watch lot's of chuck Norris films back then here in Nigeria, I can't even remember the titles, but all we knew was chuck Norris alone can defeat a whole country's army. We used to think one American soldier can defeat a whole army.

Same in Italy, it was prime time TV for a few years.

Not overly popular, but many people already knew him from the Bruce Lee era, so it had a following by default.


Lots of fans in the Philippines, apparently.

Same in Hungary.

Same in Slovakia

India too!

Seinfeld wasn't at all well known in Italy when I lived there, but WTR was.

IIRC Seinfeld aired on Tele Montecarlo/La 7, while WTR aired on Italia 1, the difference in audience was massive.

I seem to recall it aired at some kind of weird time too. It didn't seem to be very widely known or watched.

I'm Swedish and I was only vaguely aware Chuck Norris even had a career outside the jokes.

WTR did air here in Sweden in the 90s. From a quick search in the news archives, it was on late at night on tv3 in the late 90s and then it ran on that or/and some other cabel channels in the 00s as well (reruns?).

Belgian here, only thing I ever watched that had Chuck in it was Way of the Dragon.

As a gent born and raised in Texas, and has never seen the show - I am pleasantly surprised to see these comments about how popular WTR was internationally. If I had been asked to bet, I would have lost money on this one.

As others have said, WTR is very well-known in France while most people have never heard of Seinfeld.

Same with Dallas and The Dukes of Hazzard.


Assuming this sort of phenomenon extends further than France, this quite well explains many of the misconceptions Europeans have about the US.

Thinking WTR, Dallas, or TDoH are representative of American culture is... hilarious.

But I guess shows that hit the big American cultural stereotypes hard are maybe the ones that do better abroad?


I think Hazard didn't sound stereotype at all, like, nobody had a clue why the car was called General Lee, or what the confederate flag meant.

It was just a fun show. Magnum PI, Different Strokes, McGiver.. were just as popular.


> Thinking WTR, Dallas, or TDoH are representative of American culture is... hilarious.

I’m not aware of a single person who thinks that, and neither was that the claim of your parent comment.

People understand TV shows are fiction.


From my memory from the 90s: Baywatch, X-Files, that speaking car one, Beverly Hills 90210, Ninja Turtles. Some dumb sitcom named Step by Step? edit: oh and ALF

Oh and Married with Children, but it was always very late night and I was not allowed to watch it.

And our teacher always played us ET on VHS. (and that dog playing basketball.)

that's america for me when I was a kid


If you like MwC, look up episodes of Unhappily Ever After on Youtube, it's sort of the second-generation MwC. Same sort of humour but taken even further, I can easily re-watch Unhappily but MwC is sort of a once-you've-seen-it...

> that speaking car one

Knight Rider.

> that dog playing basketball

Air Bud.


dallas was huge in dubai in the 80s. like to the extent that people would plan to sit home on the evening it was on.

(I didn't watch it; my parents believed soap operas were unsuitable for kids)


The show was also incredibly popular in Germany in the 90s.

Yeah. As an American I would’ve absolutely never guessed it was that popular.

It was a syndicated show, the goal is to license it to as many companies as possible. It was never a network TV show like Seinfeld, those syndication rights are way more expensive than created for syndication shows like WTR.

I've got the impression that the big US exports are ones that play into big American stereotypes, e.g WTR, Baywatch, Friends. Not even that they see these shows and get programmed with these stereotypes, but that they have these stereotypes (Texas, California, NYC) and shows like this feed their imaginations and give them detail.

Exported media is weird. Like the huge proportion of British/BBC output (usually period, but also often detective in a way redolent of Christie) that is made primarily for export to foreign consumers who think of British upper-class culture as aspirational.


There is US exported media that just randomly becomes popular in a specific demographic. Case in point: Adventures of Ford Fairlane, a flick with Andrew Dice Clay that got a razzie the year it came out. IIRC it got a cult following in Norway because the voice over was done by a popular radio DJ.

Walker, Texas Ranger and Baywatch were both created by non-network studios as syndicated shows, they weren’t prime time network shows. The budgets for syndicated content is a lot lower than network produced content.

The rights to air these sorts of shows are dirt cheap compared to Friends or Seinfeld, so it makes sense that cheap syndicated garbage like Walker, Texas Ranger and Baywatch were popular internationally, the rights were cheap.


> Maybe for people in the US. Internationally?

It was big internationally. But the jokes made Norris known to a whole different generation than the one watching WTR.


I loved WTR as a child in Spain! (This was like 15 years ago tho)

WTR was still on air 15 years ago? I'm getting old.

It was extremely popular in Russian-speaking areas in the late 90s.

Yes! Oldfagi remember. Also, he was just called "Cool Walker", which was appropriate.

I would even say that the connotation was more like "Badass Walker", which indeed further cemented his reputation.

Czechs love Chuck Norris and WTR. It aired between 1995 and 2012. The series is still occasionally rerun.

Yeah, everyone is talking about it here - especially how Death must have screwed up to get Chuck Norrissed.

So Chuck Norris is an Anna Kournikova, famous for having been moderately famous and monetized ad infinitum?

I remember watching a few episodes on TV as a kid but I could not have told you who acted in it

In Spain it was on the TV also for like a decade, and everybody knows who he is. Also in France.

Haven't watched it and first time hearing about it too. But I knew who Chuck Norris was.

I watched it all the time in Canada.

Lies. Everyone knows The Red Green Show is the only television program legally allowed in Canada.

Not just Canada. Never screened here AFAIK so I had to buy it on DVD.

It was quite popular in France.

Huuuuuuuuge in South Africa.

It was very popular here (Czech Republic). Not prime-time popular, but popular enough.

Personally I was at a prime age watching a lot of Conan O'Brien's Late Night show and one of his best skits was the Walker Texas Ranger Lever. They would pick the most ridiculous clips from the show and just run them out of context. IIRC Chuck Norris even showed up on the show one time to give him a "stern talking to". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpIEyn9G6_8

Also, he fought Bruce Lee! One of my favorite face-offs ever filmed, esp in the martial arts movie genre. Not many actors who could say that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlTyJhbTxxo&pp=ygUZY2h1Y2sgb...


Any person from South Africa from that era will have a certain tv announcement permanently etched in their memories. It goes something like:

"Friday night is action night with Walker Texas Ranger"


Somehow, I don't think he'll be remembered for Karate Kommandos ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK6hb602588

The only time I ever saw Walker,Texas Ranger was when I was living in Italy for a few months in the aughts. It was dubbed in Italian. Apparently it was popular there.

I can report that french reddit thread all mention Walker Texas ranger all along the page. These Sunday lunch shows hit different.

I loved that show! I was a teenager. Peak 1990s.

Never heard about this series in France. I discovered him through the jokes. I am 55

It was super popular in Portugal.

And he would be known by those people. I remember him being famous in the 90s.

Would the people who grew up in the early 2000s, or especially 2010s, know much of anything about him?

I mean how much do younger people know about Scott Baio or the Corys or Candice Bergen these days?


You might be able to argue he was a bigger star than any of them.

His career lasted far longer. He had big movie appearances for 30 years, none of those people accomplished that.

Norris' first movie role was in 1968, first big credited appearance was 1972, Walker Texas Ranger finished in 2001.


> You might be able to argue he was a bigger star than any of them.

I think that's a hard argument to make.

Candace Bergen's career was just as long. Her first movie role was 1966, she was nominated for an Oscar in 1979, and she was on a popular sitcom from 1988 to 1998 that won her five Emmies and attracted national commentary after criticism from the Vice President.

I was a kid in the 80s and 90s and to me even then Chuck Norris was a B-movie self-parody joke character. He was not an A-list "action star" in the sense that Schwarzenegger, Stallone, or even Van Damme were.


Haha haven’t heard of either of those but I do know that when Chuck Norris does pushups he pushes the Earth down

We all do. That’s the only way you can do a pushup.

It would be more impressive to say that when Chuck Norris does pushups, he violates conservation of momentum and the Earth does not move.


The dude was a badass, 6 time undefeated karate world champion (!!!), created his own variant of karate mixed with korean martial arts, was a good friend with Bruce Lee and that scene in Colloseum - probably the coolest thing I saw as a kid growing up behind iron curtain... not many actors can have such a resume on top of their acting career.

Those who cared would/will know him regardless. But obviously those people would be relatively few and far apart.


An immense amount of time, dedication and talent must have went into all those achievements. This requires mastery of body and mind at an exceptional level. Putting aside all jokes and acting roles, the martials arts is where he earned my full respect and that will also stick in my memory about him.

He had is own line of denims, with extra stretchy crotches. Makes roundhouse kicking baddies in the face easier.

"World champion" is an embellishment, but he was a strong point fighter within North America. His six championships were for a tournament that crowned self-titled "Professional [weight class] Karate Champions", with the "World" embellishment added later. To be fair, people from other countries did occasionally appear at these tournaments, but there weren't Japanese fighters there, and Japan dominates the gold medal count for the WKF World Karate Championship that started in 1970.

Reminds of King of Kong and those arcade and video game "World Championships" in 80s/90s basically only involving Americans.

Chuck Norris made a Chuck Norris joke in one of the Expendable movies, and for that I'm willing to forgive all his indiscretions.

That is hands down one of my ATF scenes in any movie. Expendables 2 was IMO just about the most "fun" movie I've ever seen as well. It wasn't great cinema, or a specific classic.. but it was fun. I have similar feelings about Gremlins 2 as well. We need more fun movies, but too many people seem to have not been issued a sense of humor these days.

X1 is also great imo. Just the perfect blend of action, self awareness and cheese.

Absolutely.. loved X1, I just think X2 was just a bit more fun... X3 was a bit of a backslide though.


Yep, this is the one

Found out about his passing from my teenage kids. They knew him as some legendary tough guy based solely on the jokes, but had no idea who he actually was. To be fair, looking at some other comments here about his political and personal leanings, I didn't know who he actually was either.

> And what did he do? Try and shut it down and start suing people. Stupid.

Isn't that an obligation when you own a trademark? That you sue people, or else you may lose the trademark?


> Isn't that an obligation when you own a trademark? That you sue people, or else you may lose the trademark?

It's not quite as cut and dry as you suggest. Besides, in which way was a trademark being violated? Last I knew merely talking about and referencing a celebrity by name was not a trademark violation.


Is it trademark, or IP. If someone made a list of Mickey Mouse jokes, Disney's law department will send them a letter too. Chuck Norris is a person/name but also a persona.

Also, perhaps it was Norris' lawyer acting on behalf of him. Maybe he didn't even know about it.

Chuck Norris was and is still an international sensation. Chuck Norris is right up there with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jean Claude Van Damme.

His round kick, Walker Texas Ranger and his fight with Bruce Lee. In Africa, to this day, some TV channels still play his stuff.


His proximity to Bruce Lee earned him more or less permanent kung fu cinema fame. Walker,Texas Ranger and other work he did definitely boosted it, but the memes clinched it.

This post certainly wouldn't be here right now.

If it weren’t…subjunctive mood. Sorry, it’s Pedantic Friday in my small world.

Maybe not as well, but between the "Walker gave me aids" clip and Conan's Walker Texas Ranger lever, he'd still have been known well enough.

Oh good point.

The quote is “Walker says I have AIDS”

>> If it wasn’t for those jokes would he be remembered anywhere as well?

You’re assuming the jokes make people dive deeper. In reality I know the jokes and didn’t have a clue who he was and never cared enough to find out. The reality is the probably didn’t make much of a difference to how well he or his work was actually known.


No, I didn’t mean it that way. I meant they wouldn’t even know the name.

Not that they actually know about him past the tough guy persona of the jokes.


> Also there's nothing about Linux or hacking culture that would be necessarily left or right wing

I agree. But if you pretend there is there’s a big audience on one side ready to lap it up and give you ad views.


I don’t blame the developers.

I do wonder what the BSDs will do. The Wayland developers were the X developers. The problems with X all still exist.

How big a share of the desktop market do the BSDs have compared to Linux? I imagine it’s quite small, unfortunately.


> How big a share of the desktop market do the BSDs have compared to Linux? I imagine it’s quite small, unfortunately.

Good stats are hard to come by, but the Linux : BSD ratio is probably no larger than the Windows : Linux ratio (which is actually running relatively low these days--Linux seems to be closing in on ~3% desktop share). That puts the BSD overall in the 0.01% range, which is really too little market share to accurately measure.


If all the developers behind X can’t do it in a decade, what makes you think anyone else can?

Even if someone made something, are they really going to get buy in from all the major players?

It’s Wayland. It’s over.


There seem to be a lot of people in other places in these comments saying things work for them with Nvidia just fine.

But it also sounds like whether things work is heavily dependent on how up-to-date the distribution is. I’m not sure if that’s tied in with Nvidia or not.


In my experience, there are a lot of problems with Optimus-like set-ups (laptop with an Nvidia graphics card which is not active all the time), so having different problems with multiple Nvidia graphics card is something I can believe even if my experience with a single main Nvidia GPU is great.

The usual Linux discussion forums spirit for the last 30 years. :)

No. Perl 6 was renamed Raku (?) so people wouldn’t be confused that the 5 line was continuing development.

Basically, to the degree I understand, the language was effectively forked into two.


So it’s a conspiracy because they’ve infiltrated the seats of power?

It’s not that developers of those projects think this is the better path forward?


Nope, there has been tons of commits in regard of X11, code refractions, bug fixes and new features, in the past 17 years. Yes most of them blocked for the sake of ideology, not conspiracy, it's more like a religious thinking.

GPL, FSF are religious movements, in a certain way.

That is why they even have manifestos of their mission and such.


Have you USED macOS 26?

Nope, I stopped using Apple devices in early 2019. I can't accept their attitude anymore, of deciding what I'm allowed to install on my hardware. macOS is a bit more open than iOS, but is every year shifting more and more into the same direction.

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