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> The goal for an advanced civilization is not reduce energy usage, but make it cheaper, cleaner and more abundant!

Why? Do you think every additional watt of energy will make us happier? The countries using the most energy per capita are gulf countries like Qatar, Kuwait, the UAE. The population there is 10-20% residents, the rest are quasi-slaves living in awful conditions (hopefully you heard about what they did for the World Cup).

> Do you know how we can measure the technological advancement of a civilization? By how much energy they have at their disposal ready to use.

Again, is the middle-eastern civilization more advanced? Most of them are still monarchies.

We already live in an energy-abundant society. Making more energy will not solve the underlying problems of it.



> (hopefully you heard about what they did for the World Cup).

What did they do? I mean, besides the ridiculous Guardian article claiming unrealistically low death rates among immigrant workers. (discussed on HN earlier at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30930117)

> the rest are quasi-slaves living in awful conditions

How would you describe the much worse lives of those people in their countries of origin?


> How would you describe the much worse lives of those people in their countries of origin?

I was born in one of those countries, and personally know people who have made the choice to work in these counties. Do understand that people are not choosing to be quasi slaves because their lives are better as quasi slaves. No, more often it's a choice to create better lives for their families, and sometimes rarely it's a choice by their parents to ship off one out of their seven children to generate income. This quasi slavery is only possible through the insane arbitrage generated by petrodollars, and because we only selectively choose to be morally outraged at human rights violation only when it's done by the villain of the week.




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